People. This is a serious subject. Do we need to lower the tone with personal attacks on the Hirds?

Why not concentrate on what the Essendon programme has done to its players and the consequences of those actions?

Integrity would be a good start. Hey Dank, "make sure you use the good stuff, we are playing Carlton this week", "I take full responsibility for my actions" followed by "we will use every legal avenue to defend ourselves", "when the full story comes out we will be fully clear of any wrong doing". Sorry I am not allowed to comment".

The architect of the program has knifed his extremely well like president, the CEO, the high performance manager, Danny Corcoran - everyone but himself. Tried to knife Demetriou and McLaughlan.

Using Julian Burnside, the commie people smuggler defending lawyer, to claim Hird is "heroic" and that his human rights are being abused.

Refuses to accept any responsibility and holding out for his $1m holiday on full pay.

Hows that for a serious subject. They guy is a delusional [censored]. And for that matter so is his wife. The world they inhabit is rarified. They clearly think they are above everyone else.

I personally can't wait to see him go down in flames.

As for the club. I hope they fold.

Deserves everything he has coming and a lot more.

dont understand the attacks on danks?

it seems that this man has forefilled his obligation to a contract and is copping it in the neck

the footy club EFC are the ones that make a decision on which way they want thier science department to go

people like dank,weapon just provide whats required

its seems everybody wants these men to be the ones left holding the can

it does make the AFL family sleep better when somebody else carries the can

dont understand the attacks on danks?

it seems that this man has forefilled his obligation to a contract and is copping it in the neck

the footy club EFC are the ones that make a decision on which way they want thier science department to go

people like dank,weapon just provide whats required

its seems everybody wants these men to be the ones left holding the can

it does make the AFL family sleep better when somebody else carries the can

Can anyone see the pattern?

There is at least one massive tool in each pic?

Thats my guess...

Thats my guess...

aaah got it

vlad is the only one not wearing a tie

from raymonds over on ology

An interesting AFL article that Essendon and Collingwood may have had recruiting staff conspiring before the 2013 draft.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-01-31/pies-sack-recruiter?utm_medium=RSS

aaah got it

vlad is the only one not wearing a tie

It not the North Melbourne way to wear a tie

And I thought I was made of steel and would live forever.

That the MFC would roll on as a GF winning machine forever.

Reality is very painful at times

Try being a younger generational supporter, you don't know what hurt is.

And I thought I was made of steel and would live forever.

That the MFC would roll on as a GF winning machine forever.

Reality is very painful at times

Try being a younger generational supporter, you don't know what hurt is.

'Tis better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all.

Alfred Lord Tennyson

'Tis better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all.

Alfred Lord Tennyson

thats a stupid statement but I'm hardly surprised .

But didn't Thompson have some dealings with Dank whilst dragging the Cats from hand baggers to supermen?

I wonder how far Hird's million bucks will go if he is cut loose? Surely if he is disgraced his media career would also be ended. May have to work for a living, or be Tanya's "kept man".

james hird bringing our game into disprepute, IMO is maybe worse than the Wayne Carey saga, when that $#!+ hit the Footy Fan.

I will Never see him in the same light I once did, alongside Voss & JBrown.

bomba thompson had the weapon @ the catters i think? dank may have been just a bit of a side thought, back then? although that may have been around the time he was working in the NRL.

Unknown substances in some ways are worse than steroids or other known illegal substances and should be treated as such.

exactly; tell that to Flo-Jo

James is stalking??

stinking like a prawn left in the sun.

'Tis better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all.

Alfred Lord Tennyson

.............. always make the audience suffer as much as is possible.

Alfred Hitchcock

Dont believe everything you read on the Internet. - Abraham Lincoln

'Tis better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all.

Alfred Lord Tennyson

Thats exactly what I said to my exwife !

..........baby bummer

'Tis better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all.

Alfred Lord Tennyson

Better to win the 13 Flag than not

DemonFrog

from raymonds over on ology

It would appear that cheating is part of the Hird mentality at Essendon.

You should really check your mail. And your source is not very good.

1. WADA does not issue the criminal code in this country on doping. The Aust Govt legislates and funds ASADA to carry out WADA standards.

2. The ASADA claim of incorrect advice is just a claim with no reliable proof that it actually happened. It's no more than hearsay. It's not the biggest issue here. The elephant is the potential issue of infraction notices.

My source is excellent and better yet without agenda, certainly no interest in winning a forum brouhaha, Point 1 we are saying the same thing, semantic differences. I am simply saying two things, one ASADA is in trouble with its conduct and two, it is interesting to me (and i dared to presume maybe to some others with interest in the fourth estate) when a newspaper (even a toilet rag like the hun) allows the sort of conduct that went on.

That the EFC is in deep kaka seems well established and well commented on, after x pages i was only wanting to add something that i had very good mail on. (And that had a period of time since i heard it). And it did not come from anywhere near windy hill.

Propaganda

I'm not arguing EFC guilt, think of it as a sidebar only, this episode will reflect badly on ASADA when all is said and done. Plenty of people have been found guilty while the 'Police' have been criticized by the bench. Your analysis of the rest of the case appears forensic, and I appreciate reading it.

People. This is a serious subject. Do we need to lower the tone with personal attacks on the Hirds?

Why not concentrate on what the Essendon programme has done to its players and the consequences of those actions?

Are you an MessyDrug Supporter by any chance?

Are you an MessyDrug Supporter by any chance?

Absolutely not and I mean what I said. This thread has for the most part been informative and contained credible discussion on an important and serious subject but it's being turned into a kiddies cartoon corner.

Personal attacks on the way the Hirds look simply demeans the discussion.

Absolutely not and I mean what I said. This thread has for the most part been informative and contained credible discussion on an important and serious subject but it's being turned into a kiddies cartoon corner.

Personal attacks on the way the Hirds look simply demeans the discussion.

your probably right TGP

but after 114 pages there hasnt been much of this cartoonish stuff.

ive followed this page for the entire ride and have been impressed with the ideads comments and lack of attack on the hirds

Dont believe everything you read on the Internet. - Abraham Lincoln

Don't believe Abraham Lincoln-Julius Caesar.