How much longer does this club let [censored] players like Sylvia and Watts hold it to ransom? Make threats and control the direction of the club?

2 blokes who struggled to get kicks against the worst side in the AFL - oh wait thats the Dees - the second worst side in the AFL

No matter your point of view of where this club as that - surely a couple things are obvious to all

This club has zero leadership

The playing group is ahead of iteslef - I'm not out to pick on Watts but what has he done to demand he know who the coach is? This isn't a pont agains Watts it's to show this club is weak as [censored] just like its perfomance today

Overall the club is going nowhere

I support PJ as he'll make decisions that will be ruthless - he will demand success - The MFC fire Neeld because players threatened to leave - those same players can't play for shite (Sylvia & Watts) nd this club continues to fold to these demands haha what a joke

I will clarify my point that Neeld wasn't right coach for the club but someone needed to be hard with these players... how much more crap does this club need to put up with before people realise [censored] weak players need to be let go and the club needs to rebuild (Dunn, Sylvia, Jamar, Davey etc etc ect)

Anyway enjoy the embarrassment that is this club - keep firing coaches and blaming everyone else - I don't like picking on single players as there are plenty in the [censored] weak group but Lynden Dunn is the poster child of why this club is crap

It is obvious that the MFC needs to replace its players list. But not until the Club has people who knows what type of players to recruit.

It is obvious that the MFC needs to replace its players list. But not until the Club has people who knows what type of players to recruit.

a voice of reason, i like it.

To employ the right Football Manager & Coach can take control of this.

At present the players do not rate our Football Admin. It's wrong but a fact

We need new admin before we sack the list.

The teachers are wrong not the students.

Sylvia was the one player GWS wanted to shut down yesterday. And they did.

The bottom line is though - he is one of our better players and we need to re-sign him asap.

Sylvia was the one player GWS wanted to shut down yesterday. And they did. The bottom line is though - he is one of our better players and we need to re-sign him asap.

The one player they wanted to shut down was Jones - they tried 4 guys on him, but they couldn't. Maybe Sylvia was second priority but he wilted when he should have stood up.

It is a player's right to hold off negotiations on his contract until such time as he sees fit to sign it. If you call that "holding the club to ransom," then that's fine.

Silvia wilted Oh NOOOOOOOO what a surprise!

At least Sylvia had an excuse for playing badly... Was at the Casino until at least 2.30am Friday morning.

That was the final straw for me, he can f#*k off.

Sylvia was the one player GWS wanted to shut down yesterday. And they did.

The bottom line is though - he is one of our better players and we need to re-sign him asap.

On what basis do you make that claim?

At least Sylvia had an excuse for playing badly... Was at the Casino until at least 2.30am Friday morning.

That was the final straw for me, he can f#*k off.

Really???

Really???

Gospel.

Playing poker by himself, not partying, but still extremely ordinary.

Sylvia was the one player GWS wanted to shut down yesterday. And they did.

The bottom line is though - he is one of our better players and we need to re-sign him asap.

Silvia has always been overrated by supporters on this site. One incident yesterday, where the ball was at his feet and he didn't know it was there shows what I have been saying for a while now, he has little to no awareness and no peripheral vision.

This problem added to what 'stuie' has pointed out above has held back his career. He has never had the potential to be a super star but he could have been a good player.

Edited August 4, 201311 yr by rjay

I am starting to wonder if Sylvia and Watts although not the cause are not helping the culture problem at the club, both very high draft picks, neither play to their full ability, neither show any form of leadership, or seem to take any sort of responsibility.

Sylvia would be a loss simply because he is a big bodied midfielder, but i have no problem with us trading watts to add to the midfield

Gospel.

Playing poker by himself, not partying, but still extremely ordinary.

A physical impossibility.

Some good discussion here... My whole point of this thread was once again the MFC has changed direction again and the main reason was player retention

Lets not hide from the fact that Sylvia & Watts were at the top of that list

Wow didn't they impress on Saturday - makes me warm inside knowning my club is bending over backwards for these players.

Can I lastly clarify that I don't think losing Sylvia or Watts is a good idea - and the reason is we have NO one else... The saddest fact is this club has to roll over to their demands otherwise we have to do a full rebuild

Lastly get behind Jackson - it might not happen over night but he'll demand success... 2013 for me highlights this is a soft club and [censored] has to change.... A good first step would be not bending over for players who demand a lot and deliver nothing

Edited August 4, 201311 yr by Unleash Hell

A physical impossibility.

Technically it is possible if you're playing on the computer versions

But i did giggle at your post

Really???

I laughed:)

At least Sylvia had an excuse for playing badly... Was at the Casino until at least 2.30am Friday morning.

That was the final straw for me, he can f#*k off.

What's your excuse and when will you?

Tell your mate at the Casino to do the same.

Prove it or you should go and have a spell as I did for repeating rumours on Watts.

We all have to listen to you whinge about rule-breakers.

You have broken the COC-Looking forward to no Stuie for a while.

Some good discussion here... My whole point of this thread was once again the MFC has changed direction again and the main reason was player retention

Lets not hide from the fact that Sylvia & Watts were at the top of that list

Wow didn't they impress on Saturday - makes me warm inside knowning my club is bending over backwards for these players.

Can I lastly clarify that I don't think losing Sylvia or Watts is a good idea - and the reason is we have NO one else... The saddest fact is this club has to roll over to their demands otherwise we have to do a full rebuild

Lastly get behind Jackson - it might not happen over night but he'll demand success... 2013 for me highlights this is a soft club and [censored] has to change.... A good first step would be not bending over for players who demand a lot and deliver nothing

Absolutely..The club must put forward solid and reasnoable contracts...2-3 years max....Take it or leave it.

What's your excuse and when will you?

Tell your mate at the Casino to do the same.

Prove it or you should go and have a spell as I did for repeating rumours on Watts.

We all have to listen to you whinge about rule-breakers.

You have broken the COC-Looking forward to no Stuie for a while.

Big difference between first hand reports and the rubbish you clearly made up about Watts a while back.

Considering I'm passing on a sighting rather than made up personal scandals I'm sure even an intellect of your limited stature can see the difference.... If you ask a grown up to explain it.

Some would say it's fair enough these blokes would be considering their options, i tend to agree in col's case, he isn't going to be part of our next flag, he has given us ten years service and all that.

On the other hand, both these blokes have the ability to stand up, put in the effort and make a dramatic difference to this side, neither show leadership, willingness to dig in and work hard.

maybe it would be best for them to move on if they aren't willing to dig in and do what's required and what we want/need them to do it.

Big difference between first hand reports and the rubbish you clearly made up about Watts a while back.

Considering I'm passing on a sighting rather than made up personal scandals I'm sure even an intellect of your limited stature can see the difference.... If you ask a grown up to explain it.

If you didn't see it yourself you're spreading a Stuie rumour.

Whether it's a UFO or Col at the big house the morning before a game it's still just a Stuie sighting.

Unlike you I wont go crying to the mods because a rule has been broken.

Just stop your schoolgirl schtick.

It is obvious that the MFC needs to replace its players list. But not until the Club has people who knows what type of players to recruit.

101...Put the Teachers in place first...The students follow.

If you didn't see it yourself you're spreading a Stuie rumour.

Whether it's a UFO or Col at the big house the morning before a game it's still just a Stuie sighting.

Unlike you I wont go crying to the mods because a rule has been broken.

Just stop your schoolgirl schtick.

Correct. Unless you see it yourself it is hearsay.