red and blue forever 1,074 Posted July 16, 2013 Posted July 16, 2013 Melbourne has moved on from Paul Roos to fill its vacant senior coach position Finally, we hear they are scouting the other main contenders. It's down to three now - Williams, Eade and Craig. With the stuff coming from the players about Craig, he is firming as my most desirable prospect.
stuie 7,374 Posted July 16, 2013 Posted July 16, 2013 Finally? Do you really think they put together a group to pick the next coach just so they could say "well, it's Roos or I guess we go without a coach....." I didn't think anything could make me look forward to the end of this season more, but all this constant he said she said about Roos is doing it.
Ted Lasso 19,586 Posted July 16, 2013 Posted July 16, 2013 how could we interview them next week? i thought that wasnt allowed until seasons end
red and blue forever 1,074 Posted July 16, 2013 Author Posted July 16, 2013 Finally? Do you really think they put together a group to pick the next coach just so they could say "well, it's Roos or I guess we go without a coach....." I didn't think anything could make me look forward to the end of this season more, but all this constant he said she said about Roos is doing it. what i meant by finally is finally we have spoken in the media about WIlliams and Eade, as well as confirming they are soon to contact them.
angrydee 842 Posted July 16, 2013 Posted July 16, 2013 how could we interview them next week? i thought that wasnt allowed until seasons end Can't appoint until season's end
fuchsia 37 Posted July 16, 2013 Posted July 16, 2013 Williams will get the gig.. read the form guide ie; roos; akin to chasing windmills ... (the lady doth protest too much methinks) eade; has committed to aust team to play irish @ years end & taken a job on rules committe for next year( he is moving on ).. wouldn't take either if he thought he was in with a shot. neil craig SHOT himself in foot with the geelong game on sat & all the neg.press about the lack of troop movement... pj hasn't come this far to go backwords.. williams ;;glowing endorsement from ex port players ie;cornes & rich.players . & held in in high regard by pj @ afl ingeneral... thats the field. !!! @ $7.00 quoted with "sportsbet" to win a max. of $500 pretty fair chance considering tab offering only $4.. but u cant get on for anything reasonable. or has been suspended.
DemonOX 8,857 Posted July 16, 2013 Posted July 16, 2013 They have just discussed on SEN that the dees have contacted Roos again on Friday an again he said no ATM I'm not interested. As a result PJ has said ok we are moving on to other coaching prospects. Good to c we are not trying to convince Roos to coach cause as some have said on here we don't want a coach who has to be convinced to coach us we want someone who WANTS the job. For me it's now Williams.
Whispering_Jack 31,381 Posted July 16, 2013 Posted July 16, 2013 My mail from the start was that Roos wouldn't coach for private family reasons. In any event, the last thing we need is a coach who doesn't have passion a la Malcolm Blight at St. Kilda a decade ago. Neil Craig has certainly "freed up the players" and that resulted in some better performances but from a long term perspective, I'm not sure that this philosophy is enough to get us up to the required standard to challenge the top teams. Williams has always been Caroline Wilson's favourite for the position and since it appears that she has the AFL's ear, it will probably come to pass.
Gorgoroth 13,220 Posted July 16, 2013 Posted July 16, 2013 So they are all saying that Roos is lying by saying on Monday night that he has to spoken to Melbourne since the first initial call from PJ 4 weeks ago?
What 18,810 Posted July 16, 2013 Posted July 16, 2013 forget Roos. His heart isnt in it, and that is the last thing we need. Eade and Choco will bring passion and fire.
CHAMP 347 Posted July 16, 2013 Posted July 16, 2013 @ $7.00 quoted with "sportsbet" to win a max. of $500 pretty fair chance considering tab offering only $4.. but u cant get on for anything reasonable. or has been suspended. The quoted $7 would relate to a market framed with Roos odds-on
beelzebub 23,392 Posted July 16, 2013 Posted July 16, 2013 "Roos has refused to rule himself out completely, and if he changes his mind he will get the job." How nice of him.lol So we still have four usual suspects really. Whilst I have no doubt Roos would make an excellent coach . Two aspects do irk me about his demeanour.. One...acting like some sort of god and toying with the club. Yes I appreciate there are fine lines to walk and such but really, its just a bit of a prima donna carry on. But its the second area that worries me more. And yet it too is supposition in the main ; that he would be doing it essentially short term then handing over to underlings. Thats just mercenary to the max. ( if it were the case to be ) Whomever comes in I want them to invest as much of themselves into the task ahead for a reasonable period of time. Say 4-5 years. I dont want any fly by-nighters with one eye on the meter and the other on the door. I was asked my opinion some time ago as to my personal choice and I replied with Williams. He is still my preference. If Roos deigns to change his mind all well and good but he would want to be doing it properly and not half hearted.. I think given time it might well be a case of Roos Rues Ruse
Ron Burgundy 8,588 Posted July 16, 2013 Posted July 16, 2013 Williams is a no brainer for me. I think he is perfect for this club - for so many reasons. And get Junior McDonald back as part of the package.
What 18,810 Posted July 16, 2013 Posted July 16, 2013 Williams is a no brainer for me. I think he is perfect for this club - for so many reasons. And get Junior McDonald back as part of the package. that would be great to bring them both in and i agree that CHoco brings many things, and one of them is his charisma and ability to sell hope
DemonOX 8,857 Posted July 16, 2013 Posted July 16, 2013 Williams is a no brainer for me. I think he is perfect for this club - for so many reasons. And get Junior McDonald back as part of the package. Don't get me wrong I want Williams too but is he to out there or too much of a risk with sponsors? Will he boost the membership? This is my concerns.
beelzebub 23,392 Posted July 16, 2013 Posted July 16, 2013 Williams is a no brainer for me. I think he is perfect for this club - for so many reasons. And get Junior McDonald back as part of the package. Though I love the notion of Junior what credentials as to coaching does he have. We need to think with head not heart. Still if he has something to bring he ought to be entertained ( as applicant )
beelzebub 23,392 Posted July 16, 2013 Posted July 16, 2013 Don't get me wrong I want Williams too but is he to out there or too much of a risk with sponsors? Will he boost the membership? This is my concerns. if he fixes the team....all else will follow
Ron Burgundy 8,588 Posted July 16, 2013 Posted July 16, 2013 "Roos has refused to rule himself out completely, and if he changes his mind he will get the job." How nice of him.lol So we still have four usual suspects really. Whilst I have no doubt Roos would make an excellent coach . Two aspects do irk me about his demeanour.. One...acting like some sort of god and toying with the club. Yes I appreciate there are fine lines to walk and such but really, its just a bit of a prima donna carry on. But its the second area that worries me more. And yet it too is supposition in the main ; that he would be doing it essentially short term then handing over to underlings. Thats just mercenary to the max. ( if it were the case to be ) Whomever comes in I want them to invest as much of themselves into the task ahead for a reasonable period of time. Say 4-5 years. I dont want any fly by-nighters with one eye on the meter and the other on the door. I was asked my opinion some time ago as to my personal choice and I replied with Williams. He is still my preference. If Roos deigns to change his mind all well and good but he would want to be doing it properly and not half hearted.. I think given time it might well be a case of Roos Rues Ruse What?! It's been a few posters here who've been boxing at shadows about Roos. I think he has been quite clear throughout - and, it seems, his message to the public has mirrored that to Peter Jackson. But some here have refused to take his statements at face value and, instead, have been in the conspiracy theory headspace throughout, pretty well despite his stated position - their position has seemingly been based upon very weak signs, eg, the curl of the lip, the smirk off the main camera, the stated intentions of James Hird a few years back. All hardly compelling evidence IMO.
beelzebub 23,392 Posted July 16, 2013 Posted July 16, 2013 What?! It's been a few posters here who've been boxing at shadows about Roos. I think he has been quite clear throughout - and, it seems, his message to the public has mirrored that to Peter Jackson. But some here have refused to take his statements at face value and, instead, have been in the conspiracy theory headspace throughout, pretty well despite his stated position - their position has seemingly been based upon very weak signs, eg, the curl of the lip, the smirk off the main camera, the stated intentions of James Hird a few years back. All hardly compelling evidence IMO. Has he ?? come now seems he hasnt even fessed to recently talking to PJ
bush demon 2,209 Posted July 16, 2013 Posted July 16, 2013 "Roos has refused to rule himself out completely, and if he changes his mind he will get the job." How nice of him.lol So we still have four usual suspects really. Whilst I have no doubt Roos would make an excellent coach . Two aspects do irk me about his demeanour.. One...acting like some sort of god and toying with the club. Yes I appreciate there are fine lines to walk and such but really, its just a bit of a prima donna carry on. But its the second area that worries me more. And yet it too is supposition in the main ; that he would be doing it essentially short term then handing over to underlings. Thats just mercenary to the max. ( if it were the case to be ) Whomever comes in I want them to invest as much of themselves into the task ahead for a reasonable period of time. Say 4-5 years. I dont want any fly by-nighters with one eye on the meter and the other on the door. I was asked my opinion some time ago as to my personal choice and I replied with Williams. He is still my preference. If Roos deigns to change his mind all well and good but he would want to be doing it properly and not half hearted.. I think given time it might well be a case of Roos Rues Ruse Even ,Rude Roos rues ruse
DemonOX 8,857 Posted July 16, 2013 Posted July 16, 2013 if he fixes the team....all else will follow That would have been the reaction if any of the past 2 coaches had succeeded I would have thought.
McQueen 17,867 Posted July 16, 2013 Posted July 16, 2013 So after all that he still hasn't said a definitive "no." Even though it now looks highly unlikely, Jackson has still managed to leave the door ajar with those comments..
Redleg 42,195 Posted July 16, 2013 Posted July 16, 2013 My mail from the start was that Roos wouldn't coach for private family reasons. In any event, the last thing we need is a coach who doesn't have passion a la Malcolm Blight at St. Kilda a decade ago. Neil Craig has certainly "freed up the players" and that resulted in some better performances but from a long term perspective, I'm not sure that this philosophy is enough to get us up to the required standard to challenge the top teams. Williams has always been Caroline Wilson's favourite for the position and since it appears that she has the AFL's ear, it will probably come to pass. Well I feel that this story still has a bit to play out. I still have him in the loop.
beelzebub 23,392 Posted July 16, 2013 Posted July 16, 2013 Its like driving laps. You're a bit better acquainted with the road, youre moving a bit quicker, but essentially youre going in circles ...lol
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