That's a little harsh, Some of his stats (inside 50s, tackles, clearances) have been quite solid over the last few weeks. Considering grimes, viney and Evans have been out, who would you have preferred from last years list take that place on this seasons list? Bate? Petterd? Gysberts?

I would rather they had a couple of extra rookies and played Couch or Magner, it is pointless having Rodan on the list and hopefully at the end of the year he won't be any longer.

He is past it and should never have been drafted, he's not part of our future and wasn't part of our past, he typifies all that was wrong with Neeld's tenure at the club.

Shane Valenti says hi. As does Pedersen - always stars at this level, but except for occasional flashes, can't put it together consistently at AFL level.

Magner was probably our best player in the first half dozen games last year.

Watched most of this game, it's nice to feel good about a side and watch players playing well for a change.

It's all been said about Hogan. His kicking action is really weird and doesn't look great (I feel like his follow-through is average), but who gives a rat's, really?

Pedersen was outstanding. For whatever reason, he's on the giant list of Melbourne players who have been fine at VFL level but inadequate at AFL level. He looked a class above and a leader today. Played the kind of game we should be seeing consistently from him or Dunn in the seniors.

Magner and Couch are two honest footballers, but Magner's body language was appalling today, and his decision-making at times woeful. Couch's clearance work is fantastic, which obviously Melbourne is crying out for, but his disposal is shocking, truly awful. I can see why neither are getting games, though I do sympathise and at times wonder if we could at least give them a shot in a season which is long gone. It must be tough on them to see some players get rewarded based on one or two noticeable games whilst they consistently go about their business, and when we're battling in the middle, some clearance work would be appreciated. But on what I saw today, the extra speed and intensity of AFL football would be far too much for Couch, whilst Magner's not going anywhere whilst he cracks the sooks like he did today.

Where does Hogan sit on leading goal kickers? I'm do glad I got to watch the first 5 minutes of the game today, Casey should be on the box every week with this kid playing.

I would rather they had a couple of extra rookies and played Couch or Magner, it is pointless having Rodan on the list and hopefully at the end of the year he won't be any longer.

He is past it and should never have been drafted, he's not part of our future and wasn't part of our past, he typifies all that was wrong with Neeld's tenure at the club.

Don't disagree with you saying he isn't part of the future. But he is the bottom tier of players on a list of 40. I think Rodan adds an element of X factor and speed, he definitely holds up a place while grimes viney etc are injured and Kent, toumpas keep learning. Also cover for Matt jones if he gets tired.

I think your displeasure should be focused more at the recruitment and development of the 2008-2011 period, than worrying about that of Rodan filling in for a season or 2 while juniors develop..

Magner won't make it at AFL level.

Couch still could, but it's unlikely.

Hogan is a gun and will be better at AFL level, the delivery into him today was bush footy standard - pathetic.

Barry is going to be a VERY good player, I'd like to know where he hides though, goes missing a lot. One feels that at AFL level Barry would have no where to hide, I think he'll be a gun Barry.

Tapscott and Strauss are ticking along ok at Casey.

I hope people who wonder why Couch, Magner etc... don't get games watch today. Couch decision making is awful and Magner cant spread. There is no benefit playing them up a level. Strauss has been good and Tapscott has worked hard but has not been rewarded on alot of occasions.

Says it all. Couch has had plenty of the ball and turned it over often. His skills were poor today.

Watched most of this game, it's nice to feel good about a side and watch players playing well for a change.

It's all been said about Hogan. His kicking action is really weird and doesn't look great (I feel like his follow-through is average), but who gives a rat's, really?

Pedersen was outstanding. For whatever reason, he's on the giant list of Melbourne players who have been fine at VFL level but inadequate at AFL level. He looked a class above and a leader today. Played the kind of game we should be seeing consistently from him or Dunn in the seniors.

Magner and Couch are two honest footballers, but Magner's body language was appalling today, and his decision-making at times woeful. Couch's clearance work is fantastic, which obviously Melbourne is crying out for, but his disposal is shocking, truly awful. I can see why neither are getting games, though I do sympathise and at times wonder if we could at least give them a shot in a season which is long gone. It must be tough on them to see some players get rewarded based on one or two noticeable games whilst they consistently go about their business, and when we're battling in the middle, some clearance work would be appreciated. But on what I saw today, the extra speed and intensity of AFL football would be far too much for Couch, whilst Magner's not going anywhere whilst he cracks the sooks like he did today.

Agree.

While he missed a couple of goals, thought Troy Davis played a very good game today.

i also thought Pedersen was excellent. Josh Tynan had a good one too. Thought Taggart struggled.

Gillies and Jetta will be gone at season's end.

Pedersen is just a tease.

Shane Valenti says hi. As does Pedersen - always stars at this level, but except for occasional flashes, can't put it together consistently at AFL level.

Magner was one of our best midfielders in his 2 games this year.

Also one of our best if not THE best last year before being moved forward by Neeld.

Rodan, Blease and Nicholson have one thing neither of Magner and Couch have, I'll leave you to work it out.

Lack of consistency? Sounds about right.

One thing is for sure, if Hogan was in the open draft this year, he'd be a CLEAR number 1 selection.

oh Jesse, you magnificent man!

While he missed a couple of goals, thought Troy Davis played a very good game today.

i also thought Pedersen was excellent. Josh Tynan had a good one too. Thought Taggart struggled.

Gillies and Jetta will be gone at season's end.

Had a good last Q I thought 'Redleg' but not involved enough earlier. Like a lot of our players, they don't seem to want the ball enough.

Anyone else notice the motivational banner in the rooms afterwards "hard to play against"? sounds like the promised mantra of a certain ex coach!

Also Phil the dill Cleary's interview with Hogan was cringe worthy bad "so, you're just 18 years old how does that feel" etc.

KC do you know why Nathan Page wasn't playing today? I've been quite impressed with him, Mitch Gent and Jake Best as casey listed players this year.

After Hogan, thought Danny Nicholls was next best on ground today.

reckon i'll be switching from the number 4 to the number 1 on the jumper next year!

reckon i'll be switching from the number 4 to the number 1 on the jumper next year!

Think I will stick with my trusty number 7.

For every Shane Valenti, there is a Michael Barlow. There is Dayne Zorko, there is an Ian Callinan, a Danny Stanley. A lot of blokes who perform at second tier level but don't have the chance until they get a bit older. I've already mentioned Magner earlier in my posts.

Yeah, but Valenti & Magner are from the same mould, while Zorko, Barlow, etc aren't.

Magner has had chances at AFL level and his skills just don't translate.

Any reasonable person should be able to see that.

Watched most of this game, it's nice to feel good about a side and watch players playing well for a change.

It's all been said about Hogan. His kicking action is really weird and doesn't look great (I feel like his follow-through is average), but who gives a rat's, really?

Pedersen was outstanding. For whatever reason, he's on the giant list of Melbourne players who have been fine at VFL level but inadequate at AFL level. He looked a class above and a leader today. Played the kind of game we should be seeing consistently from him or Dunn in the seniors.

Magner and Couch are two honest footballers, but Magner's body language was appalling today, and his decision-making at times woeful. Couch's clearance work is fantastic, which obviously Melbourne is crying out for, but his disposal is shocking, truly awful. I can see why neither are getting games, though I do sympathise and at times wonder if we could at least give them a shot in a season which is long gone. It must be tough on them to see some players get rewarded based on one or two noticeable games whilst they consistently go about their business, and when we're battling in the middle, some clearance work would be appreciated. But on what I saw today, the extra speed and intensity of AFL football would be far too much for Couch, whilst Magner's not going anywhere whilst he cracks the sooks like he did today.

What is it about MFC listed players and poor kicking skills? Can't full time professional footballers learn to kick accurately with some practice and advice. I'm not talking elite kicking for distance, trajectory or precision which some have and others never will Have. I am talking about the ability to pass a ball 20 or 30 meters to a target or at least to the target's advantage.

Think I will stick with my trusty number 7.

Yeah, "Darkie" Osbourne, he was good.

A big start to the day for the Scorpions with the AFL Victoria Development League team winning by a comfortable 27 points in a low scoring game in the curtain raiser to the ABC telecast game. The game was played in foggy conditions and the fourth placed Northern Blues were kept goalless in the second half.

Casey Scorpions 4.1.25 5.4.34 5.7.37 7.10.52

Northern Blues, 2.0.12 3.3.21 3.5.23 3.7.25

Goals

Casey Scorpions Fowler 4 Boland Lang Riseley

Northern Blues Dorman 2 Dirago

Best

Casey Scorpions Troutman Roberts Lang Fusinato Boland Fowler

Northern Blues McDonald Dirago Cattapan Gleeson Currie Posar

Good to see that boy Roberts in the best!

reckon i'll be switching from the number 4 to the number 1 on the jumper next year!

I'm in the market for a white one, might line up the #1.

Lack of consistency? Sounds about right.

Both of these spuds will get the chop at the end of this season but I'll bet you still won't come to your senses.

I understand what you're trying to say but there is honestly no point in playing them.

Both of these spuds will get the chop at the end of this season but I'll bet you still won't come to your senses.

I understand what you're trying to say but there is honestly no point in playing them.

There is, it's called culture. We're not that familiar with it at MFC. If someone is playing so well at Casey that they deserve a call up, they should get it. Competition for spots is how a list gets better. I'm on record here on 'Land as saying I hope Couch and Magner aren't on our list soon. Not because I don't like their effort, but because I want our list to improve to the point where they are not good enough. We're not at that stage yet.