Yeah just said that on the GWS pies bame

I think this story was well known before that night

my feeling is THAT night was the start of the scrambling for chairs

the music is about to stop and david didn't have a chair

who is next

Does this qualify as tanking?

Punters fancy Essendon for wooden spoon

Could this mean they qualify for Tom Boyd and a potential PP?

If they are stripped of all points and finish last, surely they will be banned from the draft

If they are stripped of all points and finish last, surely they will be banned from the draft

What Ever it takes

To get rid of Drug cheats

The two guys who had no idea what was going on have resigned. The guys that drove the 'cutting edge' program at a senior administration level are still there.

And now, if you believe Smith and Caro, about Hird's PR team tryin to stitch up Evans and Dmetriou then Hird's days are surely numbered....

The two guys who had no idea what was going on have resigned. The guys that drove the 'cutting edge' program at a senior administration level are still there.

And now, if you believe Smith and Caro, about Hird's PR team tryin to stitch up Evans and Dmetriou then Hird's days are surely numbered....

Patrick was on fire this morning.

I will be stunned if he is proved wrong. He has done the research.

Patrick was on fire this morning.

I will be stunned if he is proved wrong. He has done the research.

what was Smiths waffle??

what was Smiths waffle??

Mostly questioning Hird and his motives.

I have this nagging feeling that there's been a massive attempt to muddy the waters about the substances administered to the players at Essendon. Take this story:

Essendon players not part of 'clinical trial': pharmaceutical company

None of the players were injected with AOD9604, a substance first patented as an anti-obesity treatment, the company told the ASX.

The players were given AOD9604 as a topical cream.

So in the case of this group of players none of them was injected but rather they were given AOD9604 as "a topical cream".

But what then were the players who were getting injected receiving and what were those waivers the players signed all about?

It gets curiouser and curiouser ... really.

Watson said he believed he was getting AOD injections.

Porkie pies everywhere.

So in the case of this group of players none of them was injected but rather they were given AOD9604 as "a topical cream".

Isn't that what Trengove had?

Isn't that what Trengove had?

It's what a report on ABC alleged he was prescribed. I don't know where that's gone but it's something that might have to be dealt with if and when it's investigated by ASADA.

Here's an interesting take on how the media can and do affect the way the issues are presented to their reading public.

Reporters angles make it very hard to get a line on the truth

I think that much the same applied to our circumstances during the tanking saga in the way that certain aspects of the tanking debate were suppressed and why we were constantly under attack while Carlton which was the paradigm for tanking remained quarantined from harm.

Here's an interesting take on how the media can and do affect the way the issues are presented to their reading public.

Reporters angles make it very hard to get a line on the truth

I think that much the same applied to our circumstances during the tanking saga in the way that certain aspects of the tanking debate were suppressed and why we were constantly under attack while Carlton which was the paradigm for tanking remained quarantined from harm.

Its been clear for a long time that Mark Robinson and Rohan Connolly (as Ess Supporters) are doing their best for the Bummers. Its also clear that Smith and Wilson are being fed continuously by the AFL. The first I can understand, the second is a disgrace - and we were the subject of that leaking during the tanking saga.

I called in another thread for Dimwit to be sacked and I cannot see how he can survive this. Well I can because its a boys club but he should go. He is far too compromised on too many issues,

any coach who oversees stomach injectors

penalty/ life out of coaching

any player under 22 / can only play country or metropolitan league until 2015

players over 22yo/ can play country or metropolitan footy until 2016

Here's an interesting take on how the media can and do affect the way the issues are presented to their reading public.

Reporters angles make it very hard to get a line on the truth

I think that much the same applied to our circumstances during the tanking saga in the way that certain aspects of the tanking debate were suppressed and why we were constantly under attack while Carlton which was the paradigm for tanking remained quarantined from harm.

Thanks for the heads up on this article. Interesting reading for sure.

The Haggard one from the Aged is far too blinkered and consumed by her seeming hatred of Hird to , even for a moment, consider that Vlad hasnt been totally forthcoming.

The thing about this particular aspect of the whole tawdry affair is it makes for a very odd call on Hirds part to stand as accusor, and of he who must be obeyed no less, unless you were pretty certain of your position There are times and places for stoushs and this seemed an unlikely choice in the context of it all.....Unless !!! I really cant see Hird as being exonerated in all of this but as to the shadowy occurrences of the evening of that Panic Meeting nothing about that which Vlad would have us believe gels.

Something about fish....rotting...and heads

so hows your day been jobe

gee I hope it hurts

so hows your day been jobe

gee I hope it hurts

the collarbone and the pride. Both belted.

I want to compare Lance Armstrong and James Hird.

LA was arrogant, bullied everyone who questioned him, was involved in the most successful doping program in cycling, told the biggest lies in order to cover up his doping, created the image of someone who cares about others, seemed to believe his own hype, thought he was untouchable (was protected by the UCI).

James Hird ..........time will tell how he compares to LA.

Is Mark Mcviegh still on the payroll from Essendon?

Is Mark Mcviegh still on the payroll from Essendon?

Must be, how coached are his answers?? He is better of shutting his mouth because he is doing Hird no favours.

Is Mark Mcviegh still on the payroll from Essendon?

Would be great if one of those panel members moves of the script and asks him "What irregularity are you referring to Mark in regards to DB's interview?"

Must be, how coached are his answers?? He is better of shutting his mouth because he is doing Hird no favours.

He's on a drug that makes you appear stilted and thick

Must be, how coached are his answers?? He is better of shutting his mouth because he is doing Hird no favours.

yes i agree.

If Robinson was lying and cheating there is no way he would allow an interview for 2 days. Even if it was paid for.

I doubt he is 100% correct (who is) but McViegh is almost laughing him off...