Dermott Brereton's Take

[Curry & Beer 5,444]

pft tell us then what he said that doesn't ring true, all makes total sense to me

[dees189227 12,296]

Im sorry but on game day would you see Clarkson go to a session for injured players or would Hardwick or Buckley go. No. They are to busy going to game day and preparing for it. Not running a rehab session.

Im pretty sure players know there rehab and dont need someone holding there hand. They have access to aami park,

stories will be told because people want to make headlines. Its what happens after a coach is sacked.

This is just Dermie waffling.

Edited June 17, 2013 by dees189227

[rjay 24,677]

the ox is in there also, they talk about

-its the 'way the world is' if you don't perform you're out, whether he's a good guy or not doesn't matter

-MFC has long been looking for a 'bargain' coach, first timer they hope will ne successful

-selection panel has battled previously

-what if Roos costs more than the rest, should we go for it, throwing money at it is not necessarily the way to go. Roos is reluctant

-is it a poisoned chalice

-the saddest thing is our list has not bottomed out yet - Dermie

-4 mistakes with mature age recruits

I agree with most of what they are saying, well worth a listen

This goes with the comment about Moloney being the best player on the list. He backed down when a few of us texted that maybe Frawley has him well covered and if you put the list against the wall with Moloney and asked clubs to pick I would think there would be a few ahead of him.

The only player we lost last year who was worth anything was Jared Rivers.

Dermie doesn't really know, the list has bottomed out and is on a build. It will bounce back quicker than most think. Watch Eade turn it around next year.

[Go the Biff 3,383]

I heard it on SEN.

Dermie was pretty close to my favourite non-Melbourne player. Loved the way he went about the game.

As a commentator however, he has become so enamoured with the sound of his own voice that he fails to give any consideration to what it's actually saying.

Loves a paragraph where a sentence would suffice. He fancies himself as a commentator's War & Peace but comes out sounding as sensible as a Readers Digest version of Finnegan's Wake.

Great player. Facile analyst. Dermie is pretty keen on the Clint Eastwood Rule "a man's got to know his limitations". I reckon Derm should apply it to himself

And to be clear, this opinion is not based on Melbourne issues - it's one I've held for a long, long time. This thread just gave it some relevance

[Adam The God 29,658]

What shocked me more than Dermie's 'cancelled training' story was hearing from Schwarz that the coaching selection panel which chose Neeld was comprised of: G Lyon, C Schwab, D McLardy and G Jalland. Is this true? Surely it is bleedingly obvious that some input from other former players and coaches would be useful for a panel like that.

Yep, that was the panel.

[Curry & Beer 5,444]

I heard it on SEN.

Dermie was pretty close to my favourite non-Melbourne player. Loved the way he went about the game.

As a commentator however, he has become so enamoured with the sound of his own voice that he fails to give any consideration to what it's actually saying.

Loves a paragraph where a sentence would suffice. He fancies himself as a commentator's War & Peace but comes out sounding as sensible as a Readers Digest version of Finnegan's Wake.

Great player. Facile analyst. Dermie is pretty keen on the Clint Eastwood Rule "a man's got to know his limitations". I reckon Derm should apply it to himself

And to be clear, this opinion is not based on Melbourne issues - it's one I've held for a long, long time. This thread just gave it some relevance

well I asked before, for no answer, what did Derm say that makes all of you dismiss his opinion, he was pretty spot on for mine

i must have missed that moloney bit, he did acknowledge Frawley as our best, although I would put Jones, Clark, Grimes and possibly Howe, Sylvia or Garland ahead of him

[Arrow 1,257]

I can tell you now all players have a 'keycard' that gets them into AAMI Park at all times. They may have been locked out of one room but the pool weights room and all the main components would be assessable. Just another Dermott storm in a teacup story.

[Kenny Powers 90]

I love how you all get sucked in, it is quite brilliant, apply some common sense to the situation, hugely blowing this out of proportion

[Jarka 767]

well I asked before, for no answer, what did Derm say that makes all of you dismiss his opinion, he was pretty spot on for mine

i must have missed that moloney bit, he did acknowledge Frawley as our best, although I would put Jones, Clark, Grimes and possibly Howe, Sylvia or Garland ahead of him

At the risk of talking for others I'd say his pot shot at us when he said that we had arranged a training session and then forgot to tell the players it was cancelled. Of course the fact that it was game day went completely over his head, why would the club arrange a training session on game day? That was his main gripe with the club, that's what he used to demonstrate how bad we are, along with the spa incident which ended being a complete load of tripe.

Other than that what he said was fair

[Barney Rubble 1,576]

Apart from opening remark, he was just stating the bleeding obvious, no news there. Move on.

[H_T 3,038]

At the risk of talking for others I'd say his pot shot at us when he said that we had arranged a training session and then forgot to tell the players it was cancelled. Of course the fact that it was game day went completely over his head, why would the club arrange a training session on game day? That was his main gripe with the club, that's what he used to demonstrate how bad we are, along with the spa incident which ended being a complete load of tripe.

Other than that what he said was fair

It was a re-hab session. For those players who weren't playing on game day. Re-hab sessions happen for those who don't play game day at most, if not all AFL clubs.

[Guest]

I also thought the 'don't feel sorry for Mark Neeld, we all cop it' bit wasn't particularly sensible. As I have said before, you can feel sorry for the man but agree with the logic as to why the professional is being dismissed. It's not us saying, 'We feel sad for Mark. I know! Let's keep him on!' Derm was right. Neeld wasn't a good coach. Him 'copping it' is him losing his job. I feel sorry for him in that he gave his all and found he wasn't up to it. I know he tried. If he turned up to AAMI Park and the first thing he did was call smoko and threw a few tinnies around the players and the coaching panel, then I wouldn't be worried about him. Maybe his wife and kids but if that was the case, no I wouldn't feel sorry for him.

Peter Jackson himself said that the decision was made in part out of consideration for MN. If the people who have lost out the most of this can feel some sympathy for him then it's fair to say that it's not an unreasonable reaction to have.

All that being said, yes, the right decision was made yesterday. Mark Neeld couldn't have gone on. While PJ did mention the sympathy for his situation, he was quite blunt about the other reasons why he had to go.