Shiel is dating Mark Williams daughter so dont be surprised if the tigers make a big play for him.

don't be surprised if Mark Williams is not at Richmond either.

Adam Treloar is MY target for 2015

Shiel is dating Mark Williams daughter so dont be surprised if the tigers make a big play for him.

You're trying to tell me the recruiting department of a multi-million dollar organisation is going to make hiring decisions based on the love life of their mentally-suspect colleague's daughter...?

Riiiiiiiiight.

don't be surprised if Mark Williams is not at Richmond either.

don't be surprised if a most of the coaches at Tigerland aren't any more, after this season.

Mark Williams used to coach our reserves with Sandy Zebra's, when we were aligned with them, wasn't it?

You're trying to tell me the recruiting department of a multi-million dollar organisation is going to make hiring decisions based on the love life of their mentally-suspect colleague's daughter...?

Riiiiiiiiight.

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don't be surprised if a most of the coaches at Tigerland aren't any more, after this season.

Mark Williams used to coach our reserves with Sandy Zebra's, when we were aligned with them, wasn't it?

I reckon Hardwick is going to find it very difficult to last out the season if they don't get a few wins on the board in the second half, heard a rumour Worsfold might be sniffing around incase that job becomes open.

I reckon Hardwick is going to find it very difficult to last out the season if they don't get a few wins on the board in the second half, heard a rumour Worsfold might be sniffing around incase that job becomes open.

I think its been widely thought in by many that hardwick is just a coach. I hear a lot of disrespect about his coaching strategies I guess. I would think that the tiges are reconsidering their moves.

also the players & most likely the club, got ahead of themselves after last year. but that has happened to a lot of teams in the last 4 years. ... but that is the coaches job, to makesure that doesn't occur.

thin Ice.

Someone want to photoshop a picture of Shiel in a MFC guernsey?

See if it suits him

different mark williams - ours is a vfl coach, tigers' assistant / shiel's potential father-in-law is the mad dude out of port adelaide (and brisbane bears, and collingwood).

very interesting what's happening at gws at the moment

different mark williams - ours is a vfl coach, tigers' assistant / shiel's potential father-in-law is the mad dude out of port adelaide (and brisbane bears, and collingwood).

very interesting what's happening at gws at the moment

ah, of course... now it all makes sense.

Who did Dom live with back in Sydney? Might help us work out who he was closest to at the club.

If Shiel was interested in us after LAST year, you'd think he'd be even more interested now. Things must be toxic at that club. Imagine growing up wanting to play AFL, then end up performing in front of 5000 person crowds for half your playing life.

I think there's an interview on the GWS website where he said he lived with Tom Scully. Remember thinking that might not do us any favours but if it's true that he was genuinely interested in us last year then all good.

I would love to get this bloke. Was hoping like mad we could snaffle him last year although rapt with what we got instead. Love his acceleration, clean hands & willingness to run.

A midfield based around he, Tyson & Viney.......................

A bloke involved at hawthorn said they inquired and were told we had offered an attractive 4 year deal and he was very interested but GWS weren't happy with it, they felt they would lose Tyson at some stage anyway and I actually think we got the better of the two players anyway.

Would love Shiel this time around though.

Richmond offered a decent contract last year. They'll be willing to part with pick 8 and someone like Vickery for Shiel and pick 30. Be surprised if he's not in yellow & black.

Why Richmond? I think we're more likely to get him than Richmond. We'll probably have a better pick than them and we can offer a larger contract too.

I think there's an interview on the GWS website where he said he lived with Tom Scully. Remember thinking that might not do us any favours but if it's true that he was genuinely interested in us last year then all good.

I would love to get this bloke. Was hoping like mad we could snaffle him last year although rapt with what we got instead. Love his acceleration, clean hands & willingness to run.

A midfield based around he, Tyson & Viney.......................

Add the sleekness of Salem, Toumpas, JKH and you're cookin'. You've also got that bloke Jones for a few more seasons yet too.

I think there's an interview on the GWS website where he said he lived with Tom Scully. Remember thinking that might not do us any favours but if it's true that he was genuinely interested in us last year then all good.

I would love to get this bloke. Was hoping like mad we could snaffle him last year although rapt with what we got instead. Love his acceleration, clean hands & willingness to run.

A midfield based around he, Tyson & Viney.......................

Much as Sheil would be a good addition to our midfield structure, I feel that adding Jeremy Cameron to our forward line would be of much more benefit to the Club going forward. Our midfield has shown massive improvement this year with Tyson, Vince and Viney, bolstering it and the option of securing the best forwardline in the league should be pursued as a priority. Our midfield will continue to improve as Salem, Toumpas, Mitchie, etc get a few games under their belt.

I think there's an interview on the GWS website where he said he lived with Tom Scully. Remember thinking that might not do us any favours but if it's true that he was genuinely interested in us last year then all good.

I would love to get this bloke. Was hoping like mad we could snaffle him last year although rapt with what we got instead. Love his acceleration, clean hands & willingness to run.

A midfield based around he, Tyson & Viney.......................

Much as Sheil would be a good addition to our midfield structure, I feel that adding Jeremy Cameron to our forward line would be of much more benefit to the Club going forward. Our midfield has shown massive improvement this year with Tyson, Vince and Viney, bolstering it and the option of securing the best forwardline in the league should be pursued as a priority. Our midfield will continue to improve as Salem, Toumpas, Mitchie, etc get a few games under their belt.

Much as Sheil would be a good addition to our midfield structure, I feel that adding Jeremy Cameron to our forward line would be of much more benefit to the Club going forward. Our midfield has shown massive improvement this year with Tyson, Vince and Viney, bolstering it and the option of securing the best forwardline in the league should be pursued as a priority. Our midfield will continue to improve as Salem, Toumpas, Mitchie, etc get a few games under their belt.

I would agree if it was a choice between Cameron or Shiel and the cost was the same. However if you could get Shiel you would still have salary cap room for another quality mid. Whichever club gets Cameron will also have to hand over more in draft picks and/or a required player.

The game is about mids. We need to get a top 4 quality midfield in place. That and a sound defence will finals matches

You're trying to tell me the recruiting department of a multi-million dollar organisation is going to make hiring decisions based on the love life of their mentally-suspect colleague's daughter...?

Riiiiiiiiight.

Tell me why they wouldn't be autocol.. The main reason would be also that Mark Williams coached him in his first year aswell. Most of the time its always handy where there have been connections along the line. Its makes a big difference.

In saying that we have Dom who could work as a handy recruiter for us.

I would agree if it was a choice between Cameron or Shiel and the cost was the same. However if you could get Shiel you would still have salary cap room for another quality mid. Whichever club gets Cameron will also have to hand over more in draft picks and/or a required player.

The game is about mids. We need to get a top 4 quality midfield in place. That and a sound defence will finals matches

While I agree with parts of this, I do think that having a quality forward line goes a long way to how you go in the finals. Look at Hawthorn: they won the grand final on the back of Gunston, who was there third best tall forward (after Buddy and Roughead).

You can also look at Geelong, who won most recently largely due to Tom Hawkins coming of age after Podsiadly went down.

Sydney have shown that it is possible to win premierships with a strong midfield and an average forward line, but I think if you can have a potent attack your chances of winning it all skyrocket.

Don't know who would want Vickery but don't think GWS need another tall forward anyway even if they loose Cameron. What else have the Tiges got.

I'm just suggesting it's going to be an offer like that. GWS want older talent, and I don't think any clubs will want to drop a low low pick for him. We got lucky that we got pick 9 back for Tyson, but GWS don't have the mid first round selection this year. They'll want a pick 3,4,5 for him but I think they'll settle for a pick 10 for an older sweetener.

My statement of I'll be surprised if he isn't in yellow and black was a bit outlandish, it should've said IF he moves, I would say Richmond would be the frontrunners.

Shiel is dating Mark Williams daughter so dont be surprised if the tigers make a big play for him.

Are you sure that's still correct? It was when Williams was at GWS, meaning his daughter was also in Sydney for much of her time, but a couple of years have passed since then...

I actually recall hearing she'd moved on to another AFL player.

Not sure if the source was any good though.

I think there's an interview on the GWS website where he said he lived with Tom Scully. Remember thinking that might not do us any favours but if it's true that he was genuinely interested in us last year then all good.

I would love to get this bloke. Was hoping like mad we could snaffle him last year although rapt with what we got instead. Love his acceleration, clean hands & willingness to run.

A midfield based around he, Tyson & Viney.......................

Perhaps he threw up on young Tom.

Gawn.

I'm just suggesting it's going to be an offer like that. GWS want older talent, and I don't think any clubs will want to drop a low low pick for him. We got lucky that we got pick 9 back for Tyson, but GWS don't have the mid first round selection this year. They'll want a pick 3,4,5 for him but I think they'll settle for a pick 10 for an older sweetener.

My statement of I'll be surprised if he isn't in yellow and black was a bit outlandish, it should've said IF he moves, I would say Richmond would be the frontrunners.

I don't think GWS will be looking for "sweeteners" unless they are pick upgrades.

Remember they still need to trim their list, and now have added on junk like Josh Hunt and Jed Lamb, giving them less room to move.

Chucking in a mature spud would be a negative for them.

And while GWS don't have a mid-round compo pick, they will have an end-of-1st-round compo pick, sitting about pick 20.

I'd give up pick 3/4 and our 3rd rounder for Tomlinson/Shiel and 20, for example.

I don't think GWS will be looking for "sweeteners" unless they are pick upgrades.

Remember they still need to trim their list, and now have added on junk like Josh Hunt and Jed Lamb, giving them less room to move.

Chucking in a mature spud would be a negative for them.

And while GWS don't have a mid-round compo pick, they will have an end-of-1st-round compo pick, sitting about pick 20.

I'd give up pick 3/4 and our 3rd rounder for Tomlinson/Shiel and 20, for example.

You'd give up picks 3 and 4, just to clarify? Or pick 3 or possibly 4?

I wouldn't give up 2 high draft picks for those 2 players. Shiel, yes.. In a heart beat for mine. Tomlinson, no.. Not even nearly, done not a lot.

I think we'll keep Frawley.

I just don't know where our pick will lie.

But I'd trade pick 3 or 4 for Shiel or Tomlinson or whoever Roos wants.

I'd also trade pick 3&4 for Shiel & Tomlinson.

Happy with either trade.