Melbourne unveils new leadership group

Great inclusions! Thought Rodan would have snuck in but happy enough.

Well done to Jordie McKenzie as well! Very level headed person he is.

Well done to Jonesy as well!

Thoughts on the Russian making his way out?

Wait is jamar going to be Brent Moloney in 2013?

lets hope the Russian takes this a lot better than Moloney did.

Wait is jamar going to be Brent Moloney in 2013?

Hope not!

Let's hope the Jamar of 2013 is not the Jamar of 2012

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Hope not!

Let's hope the Jamar of 2013 is not the Jamar of 2012

Exactly, i thought the Jamar of 2012 was ordinary, averaging only one mark per game.

So he certainly didnt show much leadership on the field.

do we really need 9?

I like it. a lot.

am surprised at Jordie getting in, but can't fault his effort week in, week out.

I hope the Russian can focus on keeping fit & firing. staying uninjured.

do we really need 9?

You want 10 or prefer 8?

At what point is it arbritary?

Can someonepost. Link takes metogeneral page. No info

If the Russian is disappointed about being dropped hopefully he will use that as motivation to kill it on ground this year and earn a spot back next.

do we really need 9?

Captaincy does not just revolve around the 22 on game day. The list is twice the size so the Leadership group has plenty of work to do with many players throughout the year. It would be quite demanding.

Linky no work for me

Just for you B59

2013 Melbourne Leadership Group:

Jack Grimes (co-captain)

Jack Trengove (co-captain)

Nathan Jones (vice captain)

Shannon Byrnes

Mitch Clark

Chris Dawes

James Frawley

Colin Garland

Jordie McKenzie

2012 Melbourne Leadership Group:

Jack Grimes (co-captain)

Jack Trengove (co-captain)

Clint Bartram (retired)

Mitch Clark

James Frawley

Colin Garland

Mark Jamar

Nathan Jones

The Leadership Group is more important than who is captain.

This is a common refrain, but it is not about who is the best player - it is about standards and having people in positions that force players to look up to them and respect the effort they put in to preparation and performance.

If all our players had the dedication of Jordie McKenzie we wouldn't be such a mess.

You want 10 or prefer 8?

At what point is it arbritary?

Captaincy does not just revolve around the 22 on game day. The list is twice the size so the Leadership group has plenty of work to do with many players throughout the year. It would be quite demanding.

I understand what your saying fellas, my point being that 9 is a massive amount of players to be in a group, it can create diversity and sometimes a struggle for power. I would think you would only need 4 a captain, vice and two deputies.

Not that I have a problem with anyone in the leadership group, I just think they dont really need the lable, act as leaders on your own accord.

seems big to me

more like a social club committee

I understand what your saying fellas, my point being that 9 is a massive amount of players to be in a group, it can create diversity and sometimes a struggle for power. I would think you would only need 4 a captain, vice and two deputies.

Not that I have a problem with anyone in the leadership group, I just think they dont really need the lable, act as leaders on your own accord.

And I understand what you are saying, but I feel you only feel that way because that 'is the way its always been' and there is no weight behind it anymore than past practice.

You need professionals that demand respect and, within reason, the more the merrier.

Thanks

seems big to me

more like a social club committee

Too many chiefs...

'Leadership' is a most over-used and over-rated phenomenon, a buzz word really, and 'leadership group' is, to me, almost an oxymoron. It is in the nature of things for a natural leader to emerge, such that the ensuing arrangement seems like the 'natural order'.

I prefer to think of these players as professional exemplars, with the emphasis on integrity and ethics. Instead, we'll have so many on the field that they will be leading each other silly.

A horse by committee is a camel

Probably too many for mine . Just opinion though

Would I be correct in guessing there is also a financial boost for a player by being in the leadership group?

Might explain why it's being spread a little further this year?

Agree. Too many "cooks" in the kitchen.

Assign too many people the same responsibility, no one is responsible.

What a lot of twaddle some people are writing, this is a leadership group at a footy club, not leading anyone into war, or running a business if they get it wrong nobody dies or goes broke

It is a group for all players to strive to be part of, as the group supposedly contains, as another poster has stated, exemplary professional footy players, who go about being a footy player in the right way

It is leadership by example, and it can be a sounding board for young players, somebody who is a peer you can ask questions of

Gee!!!!!

That is a lot of players!

From the training i have seen at Casey so far T mcdonald would be the first picked if i had a say.