On target TD

We gave the sweetener to PA

who on traded to WCE for Stevenson within 5min. ( suspicious?)

My bet is ( and I'm no punter) far from it.

Deal will be done Pederson to Dees for pick 49.

49 on traded by North to PA for Jacobs

All of that looks fine except the last line. PA will not clear Jacobs for 49. North however have higher picks that are not too high.

On target TD

We gave the sweetener to PA

who on traded to WCE for Stevenson within 5min. ( suspicious?)

My bet is ( and I'm no punter) far from it.

Deal will be done Pederson to Dees for pick 49.

49 on traded by North to PA for Jacobs

See who first?

Gys to North for Pedersen and a pick that gets Ray. Then when Tippett goes to Swans, we do Martin and 49 to Lions for 33 and keep the pick.

Keep gysberts, Trade Martin for 33, give out 49 for Pedo and 70 odd for Ray.

Gysberts wants out according to me mail. has been offered to North for pederson and a pick

heard this on the wires, then on the Age and on facebook - and from the same source that told me we would take Viney at pick 3 if we had to:

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/demon-gysberts-emerges-as-possible-solution-to-pederson-trade-20121025-287bm.html

Gys to North for a pick and Pederson.

Forget pederson. Demand their first rounder and take Stringer

ok. a good sauce is hard to find.

First rounder with 3 yrs development and averages over 20 disposals. MFC better play hardball on this.

terrible deal for us

ok. a good sauce is hard to find.

I do enjoy Worcestershire..

We don't know if it's a terrible deal yet because we don't know what the pick would be. I wouldn't trade Gysberts unless the return was very good though.

Gysberts wants out according to me mail. has been offered to North for pederson and a pick

What pick, Norm?

Word was a while back that he was disgruntled. Seems a pity though as he looked the goods early on.

What are Norf's picks?

Gysberts wants out according to me mail. has been offered to North for pederson and a pick

If Gys thinks it will be easier for him at North he had better have a re think, Bailey isn't their coach.

Would love to know as well. Waiting for more info.

Only if Gys really wants to leave, and it has to be a fairly substantial pick. Not a 40plus pick

No way, what's so good about Pederson anyways. He can't even get a game a north. Not worth trading Gys For Cam and a pick

So instead of working on the kid's weaknesses and develop him (lack of muscle and stamina) we get rid of a two time 21 yo rising star nominee, and get Rodan and/or Ray. I'm not thrilled. I hope this does not come back to bite us in 2-3 years.

First rounder with 3 yrs development and averages over 20 disposals. MFC better play hardball on this.

Remind me, how many games has the Gys played with the Dees (not Casey)? 19 I believe - three in his first season, 15 in 2011 and just one this year; as far as development goes, by all appearances, you would not believe he has had three years. I like him, but I really don't think we would get much for him.

Gysberts for pick 38 and Pedersen then on trade pick 38 for Ben Jacobs. I rate Ben Jacobs higher then Gysberts and we get Pedersen who we have wanted all traded period.

What are Norf's picks?

15 38 and 39 are the only worthwhile picks.

Some clear indication of a source?

North have picks 15, 38, 39, 58, 78, 96, 114...

Apparently want a pick in addition to gysbersts for pedersen tell em their dreamin

Edited October 25, 201213 yr by Diablo Deemon