there are only 2 forwards next year at the moment, Hogan and the bloke tipped to go pick 1

Are you suggesting we should tank?

We should keep 3 & 4, there will always be another forward. We will probably get one next year seeing we wont finish that high.

I wish that were true. Considering we've had only a couple of really good forwards over my time following the Demons (since 1987) I think they're a bit harder to come by than you suggest. Decent forwards in my time;

- Bennett

- Jakovich

- Lyon

- Schwarz

- Neitz

- Clark

The only one to have a lasting impacting up forward was Neitz. That is one consistently good, big forward since 1987. I think they're a bit harder to come by than you make out.

Not sure if this has been posted yet... These are Jesse Hogan's draft combine results:

Beep Test: 14.2

3km Time Trial: 10:20

Weight: 97.4kg

FFS Melbourne... pick the kid up! He has midfielder endurance and is built like a brick sh*thouse (still growing too by the sound of it)! He also uses his weight and knows how to get the ball!

Round 1, 2014... Viney, Jones, Trengove, Blease getting the clearance and kicking it long to Clark and Hogan... salivating!

...and so they say is a mad keen Dees man. Grab him asap.

Spot on gonzo. There are always quality mids in all drafts but not many forwards. Get him mfc

Spot on gonzo. There are always quality mids in all drafts but not many forwards. Get him mfc

That's probably what we were saying when we drafted Molan...and Cook...

No.. no Pick 13.

Add a player we can afford to the pick 3, no more.

If GWS give it to the doggies or other, we can take Toumpas or Grundy or Wines etc, whoever the GWS leave.

Keep P13 for a class speedy kid.

The age article says we could be parting with pick 3 (and possibly pick 13) for Hogan and pick 20.

my point is that this kid cant be that good that GWS gets 2 pick in this years draft for him, pick 3 should be enough.

Are you suggesting we should tank?

HaHaHa, Toumpas this year, Tank Hogan next...

That's probably what we were saying when we drafted Molan...and Cook...

Hopefully if we pick up Hogan we will offload Cook for a 2nd/3rd round pick.

I do get where you're coming from but Hogan seems a different prospect to those two.

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Are you suggesting we should tank?

yeah if thats what you took out of that yes...

GC parted with #2 for MD1- so how does #3 & 13 make any sense.

Especially when #3 is the next best available pick.

Can't believe people are still stressing out about hypothetical which will not occur.

Take a chill pill and relax for a bit, enjoy today's win.

Getting Viney into round 2 has restored my faith in this club's ability to be a little shrewd.

I laugh at these preposterous trades where we clearly get screwed. MFCSS still?...

Realise MFC have the whip hand. We have Neeld now. He stikes me as the kind of guy who will not be pushed over.

GC parted with #2 for MD1- so how does #3 & 13 make any sense.

Especially when #3 is the next best available pick.

Can't believe people are still stressing out about hypothetical which will not occur.

Take a chill pill and relax for a bit, enjoy today's win.

Getting Viney into round 2 has restored my faith in this club's ability to be a little shrewd.

You don't think there's a possibility these two things could be related?

GC parted with #2 for MD1- so how does #3 & 13 make any sense.

Especially when #3 is the next best available pick.

Can't believe people are still stressing out about hypothetical which will not occur.

Take a chill pill and relax for a bit, enjoy today's win.

Getting Viney into round 2 has restored my faith in this club's ability to be a little shrewd.

I laugh at these preposterous trades where we clearly get screwed. MFCSS still?...

Realise MFC have the whip hand. We have Neeld now. He stikes me as the kind of guy who will not be pushed over.

Deals such as WB picks 5 & 6 for Hogan and pick 20 still trump our pick #3.

Hopefully they do not put it on the table.

Yes, which is why I can't believe after today that people think we are still going to make a great draft mistake.

I guess the important msg to other Demonlander's here is; Relax, we've got this...

Or some words to that affect

Deals such as WB picks 5 & 6 for Hogan and pick 20 still trump our pick #3.

Hopefully they do not put it on the table.

Not necessarily- if they have their eye on someone who might be gone by 5.

That wasn't my point anyway- if we get outbid that is one thing- if we try to be the top bidder by bidding everything and the kitchen sink, we lose. Which is the scenario that some people are speculating on (4 and 13) and I am saying that it won't happen.

Yes, which is why I can't believe after today that people think we are still going to make a great draft mistake.

I guess the important msg to other Demonlander's here is; Relax, we've got this...

Or some words to that affect

If they want both pick 3 and 13 I would say "Thats cool, we'll use pick 3 on Toumpas and 13 on Dawes"

I would be happy with Toumpas, Viney and Wines in midfield with Dawes to fill a gap for a few years until we can find the next Hogan which is attainable

WB pick 5+6 is just ridiculous overs in a super draft and with the dogs' stocks so low with the need to do something in 2013 not 2014

3+13 is also too much unless it's the pre-determined price for viney (wonder what GCS's price is?)

Deals such as WB picks 5 & 6 for Hogan and pick 20 still trump our pick #3.

Hopefully they do not put it on the table.

It doesn't trump it if GWS have a certain player in mind that they risk losing between pick 2 and 5.

GWS confirm Melbourne talking to them re Hogan ( on trade radio )

SOS just confirmed GWS are in talks with one club (melb) for MD2

Gws jus said they are in discussions with us and hope to finalize in the next two days. Didn't mention doggies

The Suns gave up pick 2 and pick 43 for Martin in the mini draft.

Don't believe Melbourne would give pick 3 and pick 13, that's way to much

Jeeesus.

According to Emma Quayle, GWS have just picked up St. Kilda's pick 12.

https://twitter.com/...163420498853889

Edit reason: twitter link changed.

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GWS confirm Melbourne talking to them re Hogan ( on trade radio )

I have to say, Hutchinson and Barrett normally annoy me to tears but Trade Radio has been great, even with 13 year olds calling up asking stupid questions.

GWS will pretty much just own this draft.

Which is fine. I am happy to wait a year for a gun KPP than waste an early pick on Dawes.

Long term thinking will make us really successful, rather than just mediocre.

I've waited a lifetime for us to not suck, what's another year?

Jeeesus.

According to Emma Quayle, GWS have just picked up St. Kilda's pick 12.

https://twitter.com/...163420498853889

Edit reason: twitter link changed.

Saints get Tom Lee, Claremont forward and picks 24 and 43 for pick 12. Final GWS prelisted trade.

Pick 24....Isnt the pick we had hoped to get?