Do you think we will live long enough to see a strong team Crawf52?

( notice I did not say win a flag )

Some weekends I seriously doubt it but I intend to be around a while yet so who knows.

The only problem is the last recorded miracle was by MM 100 years ago.

Is that an omen?

I steadfastly refuse to shuffle off before seeing another flag. I'll be quite happy to keel over 30 seconds after the siren but not before. I've promised my family that I'm going to get a MFC tattoo when the Dees win a flag. At this rate I'll have wife and kids with me stretching out the skin to provide a smooth working surface.

Go Dees.

Sorry to sound like a broken record as I wrote something similar in crawf52's optimism thread. I'd much rather see us win the last two games and unlike the start of the season finish the season off with a bang.

The last three wins we've had this year have been against the "kids" have been as hollow as they come for mine it would be good as a starting point to walk out of the G this week with a spring in your step after seeing us run over the crows who are genuine contender this year. Winning either one or both games this next two weeks would give the boys are bit of belief going into pre-season.

I've cared too much about draft picks the last 3-4 years (yes RR I acknowledge that development is major part of the process) to realize that I have forgotten what arguably the most important thing aspect....winning. I'm over that, I just want to see them win games, don't care what part of the season is. Fark the ladder positioning for picks off, lets give the crows and dockers a shake.

Edited August 21, 201213 yr by stinga81

I steadfastly refuse to shuffle off before seeing another flag. I'll be quite happy to keel over 30 seconds after the siren but not before. I've promised my family that I'm going to get a MFC tattoo when the Dees win a flag. At this rate I'll have wife and kids with me stretching out the skin to provide a smooth working surface.

Go Dees.

I steadfastly refuse to shuffle off before seeing another flag. I'll be quite happy to keel over 30 seconds after the siren but not before. I've promised my family that I'm going to get a MFC tattoo when the Dees win a flag. At this rate I'll have wife and kids with me stretching out the skin to provide a smooth working surface.

Go Dees.

No mate hang in there for at least a couple of days, if you have waited that long 30 seconds is no where long enough.

only need to win 1

I am strangely confident about the Adelaide game - and i for one hope we win.

that game is a whole "what if" thread on its own. looking at you Spalding, Yeats, Eishold, Campbell and one other sitter that I've forgotten about.

and

What if Jakovich hadn't injured his back and played 200 games for the Dees

What if TheoX hadn't smashed his knees and out-shined King Carey

Stranger things have happened.

This will be the first game since 2009 where i'll be attending a match, hoping we don't win. I don't feel great about that feeling.

Sorry to sound like a broken record as I wrote something similar in crawf52's optimism thread. I'd much rather see us win the last two games and unlike the start of the season finish the season off with a bang.

The last three wins we've had this year have been against the "kids" have been as hollow as they come for mine it would be good as a starting point to walk out of the G this week with a spring in your step after seeing us run over the crows who are genuine contender this year. Winning either one or both games this next two weeks would give the boys are bit of belief going into pre-season.

I've cared too much about draft picks the last 3-4 years (yes RR I acknowledge that development is major part of the process) to realize that I have forgotten what arguably the most important thing aspect....winning. I'm over that, I just want to see them win games, don't care what part of the season is. Fark the ladder positioning for picks off, lets give the crows and dockers a shake.

100% agreement on that stinga

I want to win both as well I just don't see us having enough talent to pull it off in 2012.

Winning cures multi problems and shuts up all the media knockers.

Go Dees

Got a feeling we will beat the Crows this week?

Are we on TV?

+1

sad but true

We've done it before - remember the Kreuzer cup?

At the time, I said to my brother 'we are such a basket case that we can't even tank properly'.

theres some pretty funnystuff on these boards at times....

But us winning the last two games is a gold medal effort !!

theres some pretty funnystuff on these boards at times....

But us winning the last two games is a gold medal effort !!

I would have thought Diamond bb

15 Western Bulldogs20 20 5 15 0 68.15

16 Melbourne 16 20 4 16 0 69.81

dogs have cats and lions, both away games

if they were to lose both and us win one what effect will this have on the Viney situation?

if by some miracle we are leading at 3qt this weekend expect Sam Blease to go to the ruck

No doubt they would likely get Toumpas & Grundy or Wines, after they nominate Viney.

then we take viney + kennedy/mayes

No doubt they would likely get Toumpas & Grundy or Wines, after they nominate Viney.

then we take viney + kennedy/mayes

I think I am following you about dee-luded

How skinny are these guys and what do their fathers look like?

I steadfastly refuse to shuffle off before seeing another flag. I'll be quite happy to keel over 30 seconds after the siren but not before. I've promised my family that I'm going to get a MFC tattoo when the Dees win a flag. At this rate I'll have wife and kids with me stretching out the skin to provide a smooth working surface.

Go Dees.

What about the Demonland after party? Mad Monday?

What about the Demonland after party? Mad Monday?

I already told him he has to hang on for at least two days jr.

Won't be much of a party though most of us will be in wheel chairs

Not sure how many stubbies a pad will hold either

I already told him he has to hang on for at least two days jr.

Won't be much of a party though most of us will be in wheel chairs

Not sure how many stubbies a pad will hold either

You're a shocker, OD Fire up! We'll get better and better and better, and I'm sure all of us will enjoy the ride.

You're a shocker, OD Fire up! We'll get better and better and better, and I'm sure all of us will enjoy the ride.

Seriously JR what is your time frame.

All bs aside I struggle with it being before the end of this decade

Seriously JR what is your time frame.

All bs aside I struggle with it being before the end of this decade

Okay, no bs.

Finish 8th - 10th next year, a bit better in 2014, if Neeld and the team stay together, the BOARD stays united, EVERY player single mindedly commits, I'm hoping 2015, 2016.

Players will be in their prime and anything can happen.

Okay, no bs.

Finish 8th - 10th next year, a bit better in 2014, if Neeld and the team stay together, the BOARD stays united, EVERY player single mindedly commits, I'm hoping 2015, 2016.

Players will be in their prime and anything can happen.

Quite obviously you have a better opinion of our list than I do.

Right now we are close to where we started in 2008

I struggle to find more than five that are GF quality.

I know we have another four years to recruit under your time frame but that means we have to find five very good players PA

between now and 2016.

Just think it is to tall order in that time frame.

I hope you are right but I just do not see it.

R07'11 vs last week:

IN: Howe, McKenzie, T.McDonald, Strauss, Rivers, J.MacDonald, Sellar, Spencer, Jetta, Blease, Couch

OUT: Moloney, Petterd, Maric, Jamar, Jurrah, Davey, Bartram, Gysberts, Warnock, Wonaeamirri, Bate

REMAINS: Sylvia, Frawley, Trengove, Green, Tapscott, Bail, Watts, Jones, Dunn, Garland, Grimes

Last 5 games vs Adelaide at the G = 4 wins and a 17 point loss

get on it peeps

Edited August 21, 201213 yr by Curry & Beer

I want to win as we can see playing for daraft picks is not the best way to build a good side look at north they have a better list and sydney both teams did not bottom out building a winning culture, u can play for draft picks and never became a good team

The problem my friend is that Neeld has destroyed the confidence and natural offensive flare of our group. We are a shaddow of the side we were last year. Never have I seen so many talanted young players playing as a shaddow of themselves. We have not recruited badly, most of of list were recruited with a pick that matched the concensus of all recruiters at all clubs. The problem is our coach, I hope that if there is not a massive improvement in the first half of 2013 that he is sacked. Simply a coaches main role is to get the most out of his players, Neeld has one way of another destroyed the confidence and thus ability of at least half the list. Neeld is a massive mistake...... perhaps the biggest since sacking Norm Smith.

This is the funniest thing I have seen all month. Thank-you!

short memories

Melbourne v Adelaide

Melbourne Cricket Ground

May 8 2011 (Sun 2:10pm)

Attendance: 19987

2.7 Q1 2.0

6.11 Q2 5.3

14.16 Q3 6.4

22.17 Q4 8.5

(149) Total (53)

Yes, but now THEY have Bailey.

It's absolutely imperative that we lose these two games. Picks 3, 4, 12 and Viney vs Viney, 6, 13 and 20-something. It's a no-brainer.

Sure, it would be nice to sneak a win against the Crows, but people are seriously deluded if they think we are going to turn around our losing culture with a couple of good games at the end of a pathetic season, just before the players go on their break.

We need to get an injection of quality players and leaders into the squad and to get a good off-season into everyone. Picks 3, 4 and 12 are significantly more likely than 6 and 13 to pick us up the future leaders and stars that will drag our limp carcass off the canvas.

I'm hoping for two competitive efforts in losing sides, no injuries, resting players who need it and getting match practice into players like Gysberts. No tanking, just sensible list management.

I want to win the first two games of next season, not the last two of this debacle.

This thread is exactly why the AFL should change the rules so that...

1. Every team plays every other team by end of Round 17
   
2. At the end of Rd 17 the draft order is set.
   

This removes any motivation or talk about the benefits of losing (improving draft position) from Round 18 to 22/23. It makes winning the unambiguous goal of every team, even if they are playing new players, and shipping their established players of for early surgery, etc...