Barty gone for 2012

[beelzebub 23,200]

Bugger

[DemonWA 3,888]

I did not raise no.7

But when he was I could not help myself demonWA.

Do you disagree?

haha all good mate.

I dont disagree, but i hope he is able to impact games at AFL level at some stage (for our sake)

[Jonesbag 487]

Gees doesnt read great at all. Maybe the end for bartram?

[old dee 23,503]

haha all good mate.

I dont disagree, but i hope he is able to impact games at AFL level at some stage (for our sake)

He won't be around in 2013 will he?

How long can this pain go on!!!!!

[DemonWA 3,888]

He won't be around in 2013 will he?

How long can this pain go on!!!!!

we can only speculate but i'd suspect the changes to the list may not be as dratic as others have assumed.

We'll porbably use 3-4 picks in the draft, + upgrade 1 of Nicholson and Magne. 4-6 changes is a fair assumption?

If Green and or Davey retires, Barty is ruled out with his knee, that would leave ~4 detistings?

I would think Bate, Dunn, Petterd, Joel Macdonald etc have used up more chances that JB? Then there is bound to be some speculation about needing all of Jamar, Gawn, spencil and Fitzy too... And weahther or not the club retain Jurrah depending on how the court hearings play out?

[rhaz 342]

We'll porbably use 3-4 picks in the draft

Considering we'll have 4 picks before 30 (within 20-24 at the rate we're going) there is a fair chance we'll use 5 or 6 + rookies upgrades.

[olisik 4,060]

wonder if couch can step up and play a small negating defender role

[kallangurdemon 550]

He was probably fortunate not to have been previously delisted .His disposal never improved and always at best an honest battler .I would have thought that there is little upside in keeping him

[old dee 23,503]

we can only speculate but i'd suspect the changes to the list may not be as dratic as others have assumed.

We'll porbably use 3-4 picks in the draft, + upgrade 1 of Nicholson and Magne. 4-6 changes is a fair assumption?

If Green and or Davey retires, Barty is ruled out with his knee, that would leave ~4 detistings?

I would think Bate, Dunn, Petterd, Joel Macdonald etc have used up more chances that JB? Then there is bound to be some speculation about needing all of Jamar, Gawn, spencil and Fitzy too... And weahther or not the club retain Jurrah depending on how the court hearings play out?

Green I would think will retire but Davey has a another year on a fat salary so I don't see him retiring.

But I agree they may not be as many changes as some think.

It is easy to shed players that do not have a contract but it is another thing to find replacements that are better.

We do not have many senior players left, some might survive because they are senior and at least average players

IMO Dunn and Petterd will probably stay particully Dunn He has played very good games in the past

As well he gets a lot of jobs that are not glamorous, has a strong body and plays with agression. Not a lot of those on our list

[dee-luded 2,959]

Bugger

Bugger I agree, a sad thing for Barty & for Us IMO. He is one honest toiler who has a great attitude not unlike Junior.

He has great leadership traits. setting fine examples. No the most skilled but a footballer.

[beelzebub 23,200]

Hate to prematurely talk of a players demise but it really cant be too good an outlook from here on in. Damn bloody shame.

Whilst Brty isnt the most gifted of players hes a tough go at it 100% effort sort of bloke that must have Neeld cursing as this is exactly what Neeld i slooking for.. Players that are assigned a role., understand the role, commit to the role, execute the role and give it all for 4 qtrs. Even if you get an overall 80% effectivenes from a game you know exactly what you have.

This is NOT the case with a handful of current players and it saddens me that an honest trooper is felled way before time.. Its just not bloody fair, not for them especially and not for us either.

bugger .....bugger....bugger

[Its Time for Another 4,088]

This will create a playing vacancy in the leadership group.

I wonder if this will mean they will elevate someone, I"m thinking here Brent Moloney. Don't know why he wasn't in, in the first place but I think it caused a real issue with the senior players and this creates an opportunity to fix that decision for this fresh second half of the season.

[demonoid 317]

This will create a playing vacancy in the leadership group.

I wonder if this will mean they will elevate someone, I"m thinking here Brent Moloney. Don't know why he wasn't in, in the first place but I think it caused a real issue with the senior players and this creates an opportunity to fix that decision for this fresh second half of the season.

nothing i have seen so far this year indicates to me he deserves it... no thanks.

[Jaded No More 67,768]

F'ing knees.

I really really feel for him. Poor guy!

Wish him all the very best, not just for the rest of his career but the rest of his life. Living with crap knees is awful.

[Curry & Beer 5,444]

nothing i have seen so far this year indicates to me he deserves it... no thanks.

apart from being BOG in our only win, but yeah

[Guest José Mourinho]

I was actually shocked he was still playing.

I was told by people in the know as far back as 2008 that he had no cartilage left in his knee.

Was starting to doubt the truth of what I'd been told, since it didn't seem possible that he could still be playing.

I'd imagine he's played through some serious pain in the last few years.

[BIG JIM 508]

He was probably fortunate not to have been previously delisted .His disposal never improved and always at best an honest battler .I would have thought that there is little upside in keeping him

Talk about kicking a man when he is down and he is a MFC player who try's his butt off for the club you love.

Please dont come say thing's that are stupid why there is a poor guy at home feeling like his world is coming to the end.

Just think how this kid is feeling right now.

As D Hinch said SHAME SHAME SHAME.

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

Poor bloke, I wish him all the best.

[Travis Boots 157]

Talk about kicking a man when he is down and he is a MFC player who try's his butt off for the club you love.

Please dont come say thing's that are stupid why there is a poor guy at home feeling like his world is coming to the end.

Just think how this kid is feeling right now.

As D Hinch said SHAME SHAME SHAME.

Agreed. Poor form

[Undeeterred 3,045]

Doesn't sound good at all...

[Lobe Dogg 2]

I love Barty and really feel for him. He puts in 100% and plays a role which is severely underestimated. I knew he'd had some knee niggles but had no idea it was this bad. I really hope he can get back next year but it doesn't sound good reading between the lines.

Can cartilage be repaired or replaced synthetically? Has he got any hope of playing for the red & blue again?

[DeeBruce 4]

Can cartilage be repaired or replaced synthetically? Has he got any hope of playing for the red & blue again?

Hey LD - there is little medicine offers for a degenerative joint. Cartilage can be harvested and grown in the lab but is only good for repairing relatively small holes. In the future this is where stem cell harvesting will really be beneficial - being able to isolate stem cells from the patients own supply and insert them in to the damaged site. This could eventually make joint replacement surgery (the end stage of degenerative joint disease) a thing of the past.

A relatively new treatment is Interleukin 1 Antagonist injections (performed right at the Demons home - Imaging @Olympic Park). This protein is isolated from the patients blood and acts as an anti-inflammatory and stops the progression of the degenerative disease.

I presume the club is all over this treatment for Clint.

It is certainly possible that with this treatment and correctly managed training loads CB can play again. He won't be in for a long career though - especially with a shrinking interchange bench.

[Grandson of a gun 276]

Hope the recovery goes well Barty. Your toughness and hunger will be missed this year.

[Guest lambtotheslaughter]

Very sad to here this

Liked his agressive no bulltish approach

[monoccular 17,328]

This will create a playing vacancy in the leadership group.

I wonder if this will mean they will elevate someone, I"m thinking here Brent Moloney. Don't know why he wasn't in, in the first place but I think it caused a real issue with the senior players and this creates an opportunity to fix that decision for this fresh second half of the season.

Moloney.......but surely preferably someone else who has actually contributed this year?