Adam The God 30,718 Posted April 27, 2012 Posted April 27, 2012 Midfielders in the draft. You don't waste high picks on ruckmen. You can get fantastic ruckmen from the Rookie draft. Mids, mids, mids, small forward.
Jack Jack 415 Posted April 27, 2012 Posted April 27, 2012 I'm not sure that it would. My understanding is that we nominate to use the compo picks blind, as in we don't know what other teams are activating picks anyway, whether it's announce before or after the season. We'd know what compo picks other teams hold, but that's where it ends. These rules are in place for the first round compo picks only, ie the compo pick immediately after the first round pick or the mid first round pick. The end of first round picks and 2nd, 3rd etc can don't have to be activated before round one and can be nominated whenever the due date is after the season. The GWS compo rules, as pointed out by maurie, say the first round picks have to be activated before round one of the season. It doesn't explicitly state that it is for their first year only, so it must cover their 2 year window for signing players. It only states that the picks cannot be used before 2012. Likewise with FA the rules should continue so as not to undermine the currently nominated first round picks. Again, any current or new end of first round, 2nd, 3rd etc can be nominated at the end of the season. It's not only us that it would severly disadvantage. If a team expecting to feature in the finals, or someone holding their pick, decided to activate their pick before round one, they could expect an extra pick in and around the teens. It would be unreasonable to then have half a dozen new mid round compo picks enter the draft at the last minute and all of a sudden their pick is pushed out into the 20's.
DemonDave 1,099 Posted April 27, 2012 Posted April 27, 2012 An interesting parallel to our tanking accusations of the past few years I read in an article just now within an NBA game review: "Utah is due Golden State’s first-round pick in the June draft, so long as it falls outside the top 7. The worse the Warriors’ record, the better the odds they lose the pick. Perhaps not coincidentally, Golden State started five rookies, becoming the first NBA team in the modern era to do so. After ending the season 23-43, Jackson denied intentionally tanking for a better draft choice, but didn’t deny that he was OK with the outcome. “In the middle of it, we are trying to win,” Jackson said. “Now that it is over, we are pulling for a higher pick.” " Sound familiar? Apologies if it doesnt belong in this thread, just found the analogy startingly reminiscent
GRUN DEE 69 Posted April 27, 2012 Posted April 27, 2012 I think we should trade Cale Morton to Freo for Zac Clarke Or Jon Griffin. These two ruckman are miles better than Jamar. Jamar should take the money and run in free agency.
Ron Burgundy 8,588 Posted April 28, 2012 Posted April 28, 2012 Bullet proof mids. And no clever dick, left field selections.
Winter Dan 472 Posted April 28, 2012 Posted April 28, 2012 Best players available (picking for need got us Molan). Having said that mids are what we need and thankfully they are easier to pick and faster to come on than talls. Funny through when we picked up Gysberts, critics in the footy world said we were overloading with mids...
Norm Smith's Curse 2,602 Posted April 28, 2012 Posted April 28, 2012 Tearing my hair out! We have no midfield - and the last ten years we've had more tall duds than any other team - the last thing we need is more list cloggers like Meeson etc.
Norm Smith's Curse 2,602 Posted April 28, 2012 Posted April 28, 2012 I think we should trade Cale Morton to Freo for Zac Clarke Or Jon Griffin. These two ruckman are miles better than Jamar. Jamar should take the money and run in free agency. the more we play Cale the less value he is gonna have. We'd be lucky to get anything for him.
Carlos Danger 380 Posted April 29, 2012 Posted April 29, 2012 Midfielders in the draft. You don't waste high picks on ruckmen. You can get fantastic ruckmen from the Rookie draft. Mids, mids, mids, small forward. Picks #2 in 2008, #4 in 2006 and #1 in 2007 sure as hell weren't wasted.
bing181 9,473 Posted April 29, 2012 Posted April 29, 2012 the more we play Cale the less value he is gonna have. We'd be lucky to get anything for him. The more we play Cale, the less likely it is we'll trade him. Amongst the best last 2 weeks, coming on nicely. An uninterrupted pre-season or two wouldn't hurt him though ...
Chook 15,068 Posted April 29, 2012 Posted April 29, 2012 Picks #2 in 2008, #4 in 2006 and #1 in 2007 sure as hell weren't wasted. You're right. They weren't.
Guest strawberry_gumdrops Posted April 29, 2012 Posted April 29, 2012 the more we play Cale the less value he is gonna have. We'd be lucky to get anything for him. this is the most flawed logic I have ever read. Do you think his value will rise in the magoos? and whoever suggested freo would accept a trade of Morton for Clarke or Griffen is deluded! both are too valuable. But when they look for more rucking opportunites that's when we can pounce. Morton currently has zilch currency on any market!
Guest strawberry_gumdrops Posted April 29, 2012 Posted April 29, 2012 Sloonie, are you prepared to name your darling and explain where the tingling is that he (or she) is sensing? And why? she says it's Jack Darling, it's a full body tingle, and she smells shinanigons!
_H_ 37 Posted April 29, 2012 Posted April 29, 2012 I believe I read somewhere that we are the tallest team in the AFL. Why would we go for more talls? We definitely have the AFL's worst midfield. If we don't go for the best mids in the draft with our best picks, we're crazy. 2012 Team Analysis: HEIGHT « on: March 29, 2012, 07:04:22 AM » Retrieved from http://www.fanfooty.com.au/
Jack Attack 3 Posted April 29, 2012 Posted April 29, 2012 What does everyone think about trading our 1st round compo pick for Dangerfield ? Apparently he is in no hurry to sign with the crows , would add heaps to the midfield , or would we prefer to keep our compo pick and hopefully use it on a potential pavlich like player like jake stringer if we could get him ? The other player I really want out of is draft is Jonathon O' Rourke dominating for calder and would give us outside class and speed in the midfield
Pennant St Dee 13,443 Posted April 29, 2012 Posted April 29, 2012 What does everyone think about trading our 1st round compo pick for Dangerfield ? Apparently he is in no hurry to sign with the crows , would add heaps to the midfield , or would we prefer to keep our compo pick and hopefully use it on a potential pavlich like player like jake stringer if we could get him ? The other player I really want out of is draft is Jonathon O' Rourke dominating for calder and would give us outside class and speed in the midfield From what I seen yesterday and if he continues to play like that, Do it. Break out game? Maybe He will be much sought after if he keeps playing like that
Mac7 309 Posted April 30, 2012 Posted April 30, 2012 What does everyone think about trading our 1st round compo pick for Dangerfield ? Apparently he is in no hurry to sign with the crows , would add heaps to the midfield , or would we prefer to keep our compo pick and hopefully use it on a potential pavlich like player like jake stringer if we could get him ? The other player I really want out of is draft is Jonathon O' Rourke dominating for calder and would give us outside class and speed in the midfield Would pay overs to get Dangerfield. Still only 22 and looking like a real star. http://www.afl.com.au/tabid/208/default.aspx?newsid=134389
Dee1987 277 Posted April 30, 2012 Posted April 30, 2012 Get him Dees. We should throw everything at him. i believe we still have room in the cap, he is a gun, good speed and loves to kick a goal.
Chook 15,068 Posted April 30, 2012 Posted April 30, 2012 The thing about Dangerfield is he is odds on to take the next three weeks to pick up 40 more possessions. I'd still have him at the Club, though. But what I really want is Brendon Goddard. I wonder if Jordie's performance on him on Saturday night made him more or less likely to want to hang out at the Dees.
Carlos Danger 380 Posted April 30, 2012 Posted April 30, 2012 What does everyone think about trading our 1st round compo pick for Dangerfield ? Apparently he is in no hurry to sign with the crows , would add heaps to the midfield , or would we prefer to keep our compo pick and hopefully use it on a potential pavlich like player like jake stringer if we could get him ? The other player I really want out of is draft is Jonathon O' Rourke dominating for calder and would give us outside class and speed in the midfield I don't think the MFC is a good fit for Dangerfield. I'm of the opinion Adelaide is similar to Melbourne in the inability to develop players to their full potential and often end up with a lot of highly talented inconsistent players who show glimpses. Teams like Geelong, West Coast and Sydney leave no stone unturned in developing players and clubs like those would be better suited to a Dangerfield type. If a compo pick and big dollars is going to be thrown at something it should be work-horse type who has the drive and hunger to make it happen at any club, not another young developing inconsistent type.
Lil_red_fire_engine 11,383 Posted April 30, 2012 Posted April 30, 2012 The thing about Dangerfield is he is odds on to take the next three weeks to pick up 40 more possessions. I'd still have him at the Club, though. But what I really want is Brendon Goddard. I wonder if Jordie's performance on him on Saturday night made him more or less likely to want to hang out at the Dees. I have mentioned to others that Dangerfield should be our number 1 target. He is a perfect fit for the playing style being implemented and our requirement for a skilled contested ball winner, he is also the right age demographic. He is out of contract as well as the additional factors of being his home state and previous strong relationship with Neil Craig. If we are not planning a big move on him I would be very surprised.
jayceebee31 768 Posted April 30, 2012 Posted April 30, 2012 My Darling senses tingling.. Outside mid, Outside mid, small forward, small backman, rookie ruckman, Viney. But Sloonie- that's 6 spots! Damn straight it is son, damn straight! I think we have a ready made small back an in Bail, we don't need another ruckman unless Jamar goes and we think Spencer and Fitzpatrick aren't up to it.We need Pendlebury types.Two or three would do me.I feel we have the talls to develop.We have the forwards, we have the in and unders re Magner, Jones, Couch & Taggart to develop further but we are desperate to find outliners,re wingers or outside mids.I also agree re Garlett,I feel he is worth the risk.
olisik 4,060 Posted April 30, 2012 Posted April 30, 2012 Why dont people consider bail as a small forward? He has great defensive pressure, good eye for goal and works hard.
Biffen 12,949 Posted April 30, 2012 Posted April 30, 2012 Why dont people consider bail as a small forward? He has great defensive pressure, good eye for goal and works hard. Maybe he cant kick a goal-which was once the main goal of a small forward.
Guest José Mourinho Posted April 30, 2012 Posted April 30, 2012 Maybe he cant kick a goal-which was once the main goal of a small forward. Kicked 2 on saturday...
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