Hi all my fellow melbourne lovers just thought i would put my thoughts on were we will rank come the end of 2012.

And also mark were i see all the afl clubs. Would love all your thoughts cheers.

X= On the rise.

S= On the slide down the ladder.

A= Premiership window open now

1. Collingwood = A

2. Hawthorn= A

3. Geelong= A

4. Carlton= A

5. West Coast= X

6. St kilda= S

7. Fremantle= X

8. Melbourne= X GO DEES

9. North melbourne= X

10. Sydney= S

11. Richmond= X

12. Adelaide= X

13. Essendon= S

14. Western bulldogs= S

15. Brisbane= S

16. Gold coast= X

17. Port power= S

18. GWS= S for scully has a bad knee lol

So there is my first ever forum hope you like it. And hope im right we will see GO DEES 2012

Hi all my fellow melbourne lovers just thought i would put my thoughts on were we will rank come the end of 2012.

And also mark were i see all the afl clubs. Would love all your thoughts cheers.

X= On the rise.

S= On the slide down the ladder.

A= Premiership window open now

1. Collingwood = A

2. Hawthorn= A

3. Geelong= A

4. Carlton= A

5. West Coast= X

6. St kilda= S

7. Fremantle= X

8. Melbourne= X GO DEES

9. North melbourne= X

10. Sydney= S

11. Richmond= X

12. Adelaide= X

13. Essendon= S

14. Western bulldogs= S

15. Brisbane= S

16. Gold coast= X

17. Port power= S

18. GWS= S for scully has a bad knee lol

So there is my first ever forum hope you like it. And hope im right we will see GO DEES 2012

Interesting theory...interested on your reasoning that Sydney will slide drastically down the ladder while St Kilda play in september again

Warms my heart seeing Essendon listed as sliding down the ladder...hope your right Big Jim !

I listed Sydney as sliding because they will not have the A grade goodes forever and i just dont think they have a team on the rise. As for the saints i think they will have one more year in the 8 with a fit lenny back for 2012. Just my thoughts.

Judd just did a shoulder at training. Blues hopes will be dashed. No key forward and no Judd for most of the year by the sounds of it.

Judd just did a shoulder at training. Blues hopes will be dashed. No key forward and no Judd for most of the year by the sounds of it.

True story, or atleast scans from what i gather?

I think the Pies performance in

2011 GF is the start of a decline for them. I'm also of convinced about Buckley , and they do have serious salary cap issues. I'd put them fourth. Also I think you are bring optimistic in seeing Essendon sliding so far. My ladder would be:

Geelong

Hawthorn

Collingwood

West Coast

Carlton

Fremantle

Melbourne

Adelaide

Essendon

St Kilda

North

Sydney

Dogs

Tigers

Gold Coast

Port.

Brisbane

GWS

I think the Pies performance in 2011 GF is the start of a decline for them. I'm also not convinced about Buckley , and they do have serious salary cap issues. I'd put them third.

Also I think you are bring optimistic in seeing Essendon sliding so far. My ladder would be:

Geelong

Hawthorn

Collingwood

West Coast

Carlton

Fremantle

Melbourne

Adelaide

Essendon

St Kilda

North

Sydney

Dogs

Tigers

Gold Coast

Port.

Brisbane

GWS

Judd just did a shoulder at training. Blues hopes will be dashed. No key forward and no Judd for most of the year by the sounds of it.

Well, according to the news report I read yesterday after it happened, they (Carlton) were fairly confident he would be fit in time for the beginning of season 2012. Still, I suppose it means he will begin the year without the benefit of a full pre-season, which means he will only be superb instead of his usual brilliant :-)

Now being reported that Judd will miss 4 months with shoulder injury.

I guess this finally justifies Hawthorn's decision not to take him with Pick 1 in 2001 draft because of concerns about his shoulders.

(As an aside, I heard Dermott Brereton on SEN a couple of months ago saying Hawthorn would have picked him with their first pick in 2000 if he'd been eligible then for the draft but by 2001 because of concern about his shoulders decided on Luke Hodge)

Now being reported that Judd will miss 4 months with shoulder injury.

I guess this finally justifies Hawthorn's decision not to take him with Pick 1 in 2001 draft because of concerns about his shoulders.

(As an aside, I heard Dermott Brereton on SEN a couple of months ago saying Hawthorn would have picked him with their first pick in 2000 if he'd been eligible then for the draft but by 2001 because of concern about his shoulders decided on Luke Hodge)

Geez thats real bad luck for Carlton. I really feel for them

not

I see the Dees playing at the MCG in 2012.

Beyond that who the hell knows!

Interesting views. Seems like the top 6 are set in stone, although theres always a surprise....that leaves 8 teams fighting for the last 2 spots and 4 for the spoon....(come on Tom)....I do see us as in the fight for the 8 with a similar type season, results wise, to 2010. Back to being competitive with most teams and back to a 50 point loss at Geelong, and a few of the inevitable close loses that are always associated with a rise in performance.

Interesting that some in the media still predict we will be tanking for more draft picks next year and beyond. It's these bastards i want to show up. Tanking is not the answer. Winning is.

I think we will win around 10 games ,finish around the same as this year , maybe 12th. Therefore, just a very slight improvement , but with a great movement up the ladder in 2013.

I see the Dees playing at the MCG in 2012.

Beyond that who the hell knows!

Good one O.D.

We think alike.

No Chrystal ball in this house, although I'd like to think that Adelaide wont make it because of the turnover of players. Surely they will miss Sellars too much!!?

I definately think Melbourne can win up to 12 games- the key to them making the finals though is keeping the bleeding in the losses to a minimum as i think with so many crap sides at the bottom winning less than six games there's a chance a team could miss the finals despite having a winning record- the round 2 game away to West Coast will give a great indication of what Mark Neeld's Demons are made of.

In around the eight, realisticly probably just miss out but hope to see more consistancy and be happy with 20 odd more games into all the young brigade... Also fingers crossed we can get a whole season out of my main man Grimes

Collingwood

Hawthorn

Geelong

Westcoast

Carlton

Fremantle

Sydney

Stkilda

Essendon

North

Melbourne

Richmond

Dogs

Adelaide

Brisbane

Gold Coast

Port

GWS

All ways like doing ladder prediction. Here's mine for now...

Hawthorne

Fremantle

Collingwood

West Coast

Geelong

Carlton

Essendon

Richmond

North

Melbourne

St Kilda

Sydney

Adelaide

Dogs

Brisbane

Port

Gold Coast

gws