On 09/02/2012 at 01:15, why you little said:

Still waiting is about to jump into a big vat of boiling fat. He has had enough peeps. Timing is everything he says. I agree. Let's work towards the best deal we can get. Not the first one that comes along. Timing is crucial.

Do you guys think there are 20 or so major sponsors out there waiting for the once in a lifetime opportunity to sponsor the Demons?

Do you think that sponsors might know if they wait until week 1 they will get a better deal?

Do you think the club are sitting in their office waiting fo rthe phone to ring?

Sponsorships are very difficult to negotiate and deliver on.

  On 09/02/2012 at 00:54, billy2803 said:

This is a forum RP, we are allowed to make as much unsubstantiated judgement as we want. If we weren't - we'd never here from you!!! The difference, as you mention above, is between what we want, and what we can get. How much gap between the two is there? And a fairly serious question - how much can we easily get? At the moment, what "we want" hasn't seen any ink on paper. I'm champing at the bit to promote any new company that invests in the MFC. I generally become a non-paid sales and/or marketing person for such company, I've got enthusiasm, I've got excitment, I just don't have a company to promote on behalf of!

My unsubstantiated judgments aside, I think what we 'want' and what we 'can get' is obviously too below market for Schwab to agree to.

I am substantiating that on the fact that we haven't signed anyone yet.

If we are to compete - hundreds of thousands of dollars a year is important.

I am substantiating that on the priciple of 'Get Rich or Die Tryin.'

We shouldn't have the 'sale' too early.

I am substantiating that on the Australian Retail Outlook 2012 - a comprehensive guide to Australian retailing in 2012.

(IWPAEIHIIUE)

  On 09/02/2012 at 01:35, jnrmac said:

Do you guys think there are 20 or so major sponsors out there waiting for the once in a lifetime opportunity to sponsor the Demons?

Do you think that sponsors might know if they wait until week 1 they will get a better deal?

Do you think the club are sitting in their office waiting fo rthe phone to ring?

Sponsorships are very difficult to negotiate and deliver on.

Exactly my point jnr. Particularly the Asian market. My father was a wool buyer for a japanese company back in the 60's & 70's. Now to do deals with them was a long & arduous process. But once signed those same deals were rock solid, almost like family. Now i would love to have everything stitched up now, but i would also go right through this year slowly negotiating the right deal, that may just set the club up for generations. The asians have been doing business for thousands of years, to them there is no hurry. I hope the club has patience. & at the same time do some smaller Volvo type deals. It all adds up. But we must persevere with the Chinese Market. It is bigger than big.

Ahh Grasshopper.... “Success depends upon previous preparation, and without such preparation there is sure to be failure.”

We will not fail in our endeavor as we have sought to prepare its path well

  On 09/02/2012 at 03:24, belzebub59 said:

Ahh Grasshopper.... “Success depends upon previous preparation, and without such preparation there is sure to be failure.”

We will not fail in our endeavor as we have sought to prepare its path well

A Chinese major sponsor announcement under $1.9m a year - would this be seen as failure or another large step along the great wall?

  On 09/02/2012 at 00:40, Still Waiting said:

Sponsorship committee = epic fail, which ever way you look at it. Should have been locked in 3 or 4 months ago. Successful clubs succeed at this. They also keep big sponsors for a longer period, as we have seen with Ford/Geelong and the like.

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Really? How exactly do you explain Geelong having had Ford the whole time they were rubbish and hadn't won a flag for 40+ years?

Whichever way you like to paint it, Geelong had retained Ford because of Ford being located there.

Nothing more.

  On 09/02/2012 at 03:24, belzebub59 said:

We will not fail in our endeavor as we have sought to prepare its path well

*Flashback to RPFC's "Scully will sign because the MFC retains all of it's best young talent" rants!*

  On 09/02/2012 at 09:16, DemonWA said:

*Flashback to RPFC's "Scully will sign because the MFC retains all of it's best young talent" rants!*

I think you seriously misinterpreted those rants, if that's what you gleaned from them...

  On 09/02/2012 at 09:16, DemonWA said:

*Flashback to RPFC's "Scully will sign because the MFC retains all of it's best young talent" rants!*

Yeah, those rants weren't about preparation...

They were more about entities having a boundless confidence borne out of nothing but never questioned.

Point: We have very little confidence in our club and those that run it, sometimes with good reason, but more often that not - with no reason at all.

(These are the clift notes of what I was ranting about)

Yep, still nothing...

What odds one of these logos appearing on the FoJ for a slight increase to the recent contribution?

  On 14/02/2012 at 05:27, billy2803 said:

Yep, still nothing...

What odds one of these logos appearing on the FoJ for a slight increase to the recent contribution?

I would imagine it increases with every passing day.

However after the AGM I will be very surprised if anything happens this side of late March.

Painful but not a lot of options.

It is hard to do most things with my fingers crossed.

  On 14/02/2012 at 05:27, billy2803 said:

Yep, still nothing...

What odds one of these logos appearing on the FoJ for a slight increase to the recent contribution?

I love my Volvo !!!

I know that the Melbourne FC heirachy will have this sponsorship thing in hand. But are they thinking of us poor highly strung supporters?

I guess it's still the off season and gives us something to talk about. I'm finding it somewhat distracting though.

Anyone with inside information care to put my mind at ease?

  On 14/02/2012 at 07:42, QueenC said:

I love my Volvo !!!

Which model?

  On 14/02/2012 at 05:27, billy2803 said:

Yep, still nothing...

What odds one of these logos appearing on the FoJ for a slight increase to the recent contribution?

About 5,000 to 1

  On 14/02/2012 at 08:30, old dee said:

Which model?

Black 2010 S40 2.4i !!!

  On 08/02/2012 at 02:14, Demonator said:

Hahaha!

I said grammar not spelling. Do you even know the difference?

So we are likely to miss out on a FoJ sponsor for the NAB cup.

45 days till our game with Brisbane.

Team photos have been done.

Plenty of people have been waiting a long time to get the new jumper.

6 weeks for this to be organised.

If we enter season proper without sponsor it will be very disappointing.

  On 14/02/2012 at 09:53, Roost It said:

I said grammar not spelling. Do you even know the difference?

haha!

I am speaking from a position of frustration only because I've paid for my jumper and I really wanted it.....

3 months ago. But enough on that more to the topic on hand.

5 months ago I and many other posters were the first to jump up and down re-congratulating Cameron Schwab but after the last few months it's left a question on my mind. This ground-breaking Energy Watch deal that he personally organized to all parties seemed to be his crowning moment.

Fast forward 3 months- Energy Watch have (conveniently) signed on to all of the 3 Melbourne labelled teams- Rebels, Victory and Demons- which to me suggests a plan of flooding the market as opposed to expert sourcing of a deal like we were told may have been the case.

I could allow this if Cam had gone to find and set-up a great deal for the FoJ sponsorship but contrary to WYL's thinking I couldn't think of anything that looks more unprofessional than having your team photo without a jumper sponsor. For a club who has fought so viciously tooth and nail to get our 'demon' back, we are finding excuses for mediocrity again. Mediocrity is the key word there and as a professional football club, the image that we are giving out especially if we run out Sunday week before our NAB Cup game with an empty jumper I simply can not justify how many $$$ you will need to match putting a price on the damage to our brand image.

I enquired at the marketing tent at yesterday's intraclub practice match about a jumper for my nephew. They had hardly and jumpers in stock for sale and I was sheepishly told that the new jumpers were a few weeks away.

Has any one else noticed that on the Dees website there is a big blank space at the top of the site. (Between the Melb logo and Energy Watch sign)?

Could this maybe in preparation for the new sponsor annoucement?

I maybe wrong but it does seem strange to leave it blank.

  On 17/02/2012 at 22:10, rumpole said:

I enquired at the marketing tent at yesterday's intraclub practice match about a jumper for my nephew. They had hardly and jumpers in stock for sale and I was sheepishly told that the new jumpers were a few weeks away.

I think everyone who asks is getting told its a few weeks away and has been the standard response since December I think.

In order to gain a context, does anyone know if there are any other AFL clubs without a FOJ sponsor at this point? It would seem harsh to make a judgement if we are one of of a number without a sponsor. It may have been covered elsewhere and I've missed it.

Judging by the look of the Hawthorn jumper last night, if I was a sponsor, I wouldn't want my logo on it!