Have we improved this year?

[Carn dees 108]

Same old Schtick

Dunn, Bate ,Bartram ,Newton ,Maric ,

Excuses accepted

Davey ,Scully ,Wonna ,

[dee-luded 2,959]

Malthouse took them to a couple of Grand Finals before Buckley became an assistant coach.

I agree with the rest of what you say though they certainly don't lack for support staff at Collingwood.

Thats what I'm saying. /with all the advantages that Collingwood gets with the draw, etc, plus the large supporting crowds to spur the players along and spur the Umpires as well.

He failed miserably to get the flag. They were rag dolled by a better coached team with better footy culture.

Since those days they've going swimmingly @ the Olympic center, with all the trimmings and adornments, specialist coaches etc. And they still tanked!

And since the tanking + all the Add ons, finally they rise & get one on the back of the Lions aging & the Cats getting old and stale, & the Hawks being decimated through Key Talls going down.

Who'd they beat? They beat a club that has failed to win anything ,more than one in a hundred! And it took them 2 goes! And the first game, the Saints had it, then Stopped.

Yeah, Super Coach. Indeed!

He's level pegging with a first year Coach, who doesn't have all the Bells & Whistles, yet is right there with the spoilt Fat Cats...

[daisycutter 29,743]

Dont no why Davey should be excused.

Am i the only one who thinks Dunn can be a damaging player, thought he's been better than OK as a half forward.

No, I think his Mum does too

[dee-luded 2,959]

Dee-luded is a very apt username for you.

Bruce certainly was not moved out. He was offered and chose not to accept the contract . As a matter of principle he chose

to leave Melbourne for a contract at another club less than half of what Melbourne offered.

Perhaps he saw early the lack of cohesion in the football department.

Oh, g'day realist.. Whatever, Black or White, whichever way you want to look at it, and maybe mine was just being happy he went, he wasn't kept on. We didn't try real hard to keep him did we.

In fact my take was that we kept him on to that point, because he helped us to lose games, via his constant turnovers & hospital passes.

But thats my theory, and I'm happy with that fanciful outcome.

Edited August 15, 2011 by dee-luded

[dee-luded 2,959]

The year isn't a total loss .

Petterd ,Martin ,Tapscott ,Howe ,Blease ,Watts and Trengove have all kicked on

Gone Backwards

Green ,Sylvia ,Morton ,Jurrah ,Bennell

Fair

Jamar ,Frawley ,Rivers ,Garland,Moloney, Gawn

Same old Schtick

Dunn, Bate ,Bartram ,Newton ,Maric ,

Excuses accepted

Davey ,Scully ,Wonna ,

?? Evans ,Jetta

Nice summation, CJJ.

[jnrmac 20,189]

The year isn't a total loss .

Petterd ,Martin ,Tapscott ,Howe ,Blease ,Watts and Trengove have all kicked on

Gone Backwards

Green ,Sylvia ,Morton ,Jurrah ,Bennell

Fair

Jamar ,Frawley ,Rivers ,Garland,Moloney, Gawn

Same old Schtick

Dunn, Bate ,Bartram ,Newton ,Maric ,

Excuses accepted

Davey ,Scully ,Wonna ,

?? Evans ,Jetta

Who has led the club this year? No-one. Beemer maybe but when the heat has been on he has been wanting. The only on field leaders have been Trengove, Howe, Jordie and Watts.

Davey deserves no excuses. I have no idea why you would include him there. He has been poor all year and was on the verge of getting dropped when he got an injury. His performance on the weekend was not that of a leader. They even highlighted his poor effort on OWAAT.

And Bartram's game on the weekend shows why we will never be a top club if we stick with players like that. Cruelled us with skill errors. Tried really hard as he always does but just unacceptable and must be moved on.

As for Morton, trade week can't come quick enough for me.

[deejammin' 2,373]

We have gone backwards in a huge way on last year. I will not count wins over Gold Coast as improvement, so therefor if we are lucky the best we will do is win the same as last year. Also whereas last year we got close to the top 4 teams on 3 occasions (Collingwood x 2 and Western Bulldogs) this year the top sides have pulverised us in some of the most embarrasing performances I have ever witnessed. We lost to the usual suspects in North, haven't performed at Etihad, have lost to almost all of the middle of the road sides and have beaten up on the worst, if our team had a draw similar to Essendon or North we would have struggled to win more than 6 games....