I have no problem drafting J viney at 3.... Dees would be stupid not to.

Would have loved to get him in the second round but GCS aren't that dumb - plus I think you'll find J Viney will end up being rated a top 3 pick in years to come anyway (based on the hype around here anyway haha)

We could pick the next cale Morton at 3, or get a 10 year heart and soul player in viney. Paying overs? Compared to clubs who draft well, of course. We have a shocking record at the draft table, I know I'd pick Viney.

We have to play their bluff right to the end and say we will pick the very best available.

Even though we will be prepared to take him at 3

This article I like...

Jack Viney driven towards AFL destiny

This one? Makes me a bit more ... nervous

Jack Viney says Melbourne will only get one chance to secure him and he will make them pay if they don't

I don't know why. Jack Viney is what he is, and no-one is going to get him to coddle up to daddy and say 'I don't want to leave the state' or some BS like that.

He is going to be a great player and we have to decide - should GC elect to bid for him - whether or not we want to get over the fact we have taken him at 3.

He is exactly the character this group needs.

Gold Coast have come out and declared Sam Day and Daniel Gorringe won't be traded for Tippett.

It looks as though they will receive a Gary Ablett compensation pick from Geelong for Caddy, which isn't active in this years draft.

If they take Viney with 2 then they go into trade week with only pick 25 to trade for Tippett. The Lions will be bidding their pick 8 without a shadow of doubt.

Something doesn't add up.

The good news is that with Viney saying that he will make the Dees pay if we don't pick him at 3 you can discount any allegations of draft tampering.

If I was GC I'd say "Caddy + 23 for 4 (that I'd use on Tippett). That gives you Caddy for free. You've got two choices:

1. Viney + 24

2. Caddy + 23 + Viney"

The MFC have totally mis-managed this. There was chance for us to take him at 20-something but that's gone.

The Suns will bid 2, and I'm not convinced that they would have anyway.

It is crap the way every other club can get their act together and engineer situations to suit themselves. Example: Luke Ball, Chris Tarrant. Probably Kurt Tippett if the Suns play their part well. Remember Luke Ball saying he'd take time away from football if any other club chose him. Bally doubles down...doesn't he?

It is amateur hour at Melbourne! If anyone cares to put up an argument of how can we control what is said by Jack Viney, son of a MFC champion... then how on earth are we going to win the hearts and minds of anyone else. He should be as Red and Blue as Norm Smith himself!

Credit where it's due, I love what Harrington was doing... full marks!

The MFC have totally mis-managed this. There was chance for us to take him at 20-something but that's gone.

The Suns will bid 2, and I'm not convinced that they would have anyway.

It is crap the way every other club can get their act together and engineer situations to suit themselves. Example: Luke Ball, Chris Tarrant. Probably Kurt Tippett if the Suns play their part well. Remember Luke Ball saying he'd take time away from football if any other club chose him. Bally doubles down...doesn't he?

It is amateur hour at Melbourne! If anyone cares to put up an argument of how can we control what is said by Jack Viney, son of a MFC champion... then how on earth are we going to win the hearts and minds of anyone else. He should be as Red and Blue as Norm Smith himself!

Credit where it's due, I love what Harrington was doing... full marks!

I agree with this.

The kid is the Dad's recruiting manager FFS

It's actually embarrassing how inept club is.

It's all just a bit of brinkmanship, Viney will be a Demon, have no doubt.

GC don't need another 18 year old mid-fielder, they're set in that department.

We've got picks 3 and 4 and other than Viney we're not going for any more kiddies, they'll be used as bait to secure players from other clubs still under contract

This

If I was GC I'd say "Caddy + 23 for 4 (that I'd use on Tippett). That gives you Caddy for free. You've got two choices:

1. Viney + 24

2. Caddy + 23 + Viney"

Sounds like a very likely scenario.

Pick 4 would be good bait to lure a player like Dawes as well

Credit where it's due, I love what Harrington was doing... full marks!

I agree with your sentiments but Harrington is one of the reasons we have pick 3 in this draft. Appalling list management and recruiting. He seems to want to use Scully as an excuse for our list being years behind where it should be...truck load of good Scully would have been with his tiny frame and terrible kicking.

I agree with this.

The kid is the Dad's recruiting manager FFS

It's actually embarrassing how inept club is.

We have no idea what is being said behind closed doors.

If it was reported that Jack said he won't go to any other club bar Melbourne, that he would leave the moment his first 2 year contract was up it may pump the chests of us supporters but may get the AFL to add a draft tampering inquiry to the tanking inquiry

Who knows perhaps we are actually playing this very well

I agree with your sentiments but Harrington is one of the reasons we have pick 3 in this draft. Appalling list management and recruiting. He seems to want to use Scully as an excuse for our list being years behind where it should be...truck load of good Scully would have been with his tiny frame and terrible kicking.

You do know what Harrington's role is, don't you?

If I was GC I'd say "Caddy + 23 for 4 (that I'd use on Tippett). That gives you Caddy for free. You've got two choices:

1. Viney + 24

2. Caddy + 23 + Viney"

Have you forgotten anyone? GWS.

What a load of RUBBISH

If Gold Coast want VIney, they will bid for him at pick 2. And they have every right to

Having said that GC will need pick 2 for the Kurt Tippet trade, so I cant see them bidding,

OK, I agree with you if they want him... BID! But don't allow them to bid because they know we'll choose him at 3. It is brinksmanship, and you have to get it in the Suns mind that you choose him, fine we'll take Toumpas/O'Rourke/Wines/Hogan. Sucked in!

Get the media to run a story about JV 'managing' OP, don't allow them to do a medical and say take him if you want him. MFC win, and we get him with the 2nd pick.

Now, Tippett. The Sun's are well placed to engineer a PSD scenario. Admittedly GWS are in the way, but they'll suck the marrow out of that bone before they hand over any picks. The likelihood of GC giving up pick 2 is minimal. (Not to say it won't happen, but Adelaide have got to get Kissinger to the table if it's going to happen.)

Don't be a twink and tell me that I'd offer Petterd either.

Have you forgotten anyone? GWS.

No, GWS MD 2 for pick 3

Says if we don't pick him he won't come back to us - he will make us 'pay'.

Bit weird this story coming out. "I don't owe anything to Melbourne aside from my Dad playing there."

Clearly he doesn't want to go to the Gold Coast but this article worries me.....

We have no idea what is being said behind closed doors.

If it was reported that Jack said he won't go to any other club bar Melbourne, that he would leave the moment his first 2 year contract was up it may pump the chests of us supporters but may get the AFL to add a draft tampering inquiry to the tanking inquiry

Who knows perhaps we are actually playing this very well

Good post and I hope correct.

This is why we MUST draft him at 3, He clearly wants to be a melbourne player and a bloody good one at that. With all these rumours circling about players not wanting to play at melbourne etc. why wouldn't we not draft someone who does?? Viney is well worth pick 3 and he will make us pay big time if we do not select him. That is why for me there is no question... he's an automatic selection as soon as pick 3 comes around.

We should all just stop jumping at shadows.

I'm sure he is just sick of being asked questions he isn't able to answer. I'm sure Jack will happily go wherever he is drafted and be a very good player for that team.

From the MFC perspective, if we rank him within our top 4 draft prospects we should take him at pick 3. If not GC17 can have him and I'm sure we'll draft yet another injury prone stick insect instead.

It sounds to me like this is being supported by the MFC, in order to raise the profile of this kid. Make the wider community more aware of this gun kid who may-or-may-not run out in the red and blue next year. Give em a reason to watch us, even just for his debut....

Pick 4 would be good bait to lure a player like Dawes as well

If we trade Pick 4 for Dawes I think I will give up on this club altogether.

GWS and Gold Coast won't bid; GWS wouldn't risk missing Whitfield/Grundy and GC will need to hold on to pick 2 for a possible Tippett deal - stress less.

OK, I agree with you if they want him... BID! But don't allow them to bid because they know we'll choose him at 3. It is brinksmanship, and you have to get it in the Suns mind that you choose him, fine we'll take Toumpas/O'Rourke/Wines/Hogan. Sucked in!

Get the media to run a story about JV 'managing' OP, don't allow them to do a medical and say take him if you want him. MFC win, and we get him with the 2nd pick.

Now, Tippett. The Sun's are well placed to engineer a PSD scenario. Admittedly GWS are in the way, but they'll suck the marrow out of that bone before they hand over any picks. The likelihood of GC giving up pick 2 is minimal. (Not to say it won't happen, but Adelaide have got to get Kissinger to the table if it's going to happen.)

Don't be a twink and tell me that I'd offer Petterd either.

I'm pretty sure that would all be considered draft tampering.