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How is the scoring done?

Similar to DT or SC?

Hey rpfc. See you round 1... :D

I was in JA's ultimatefooty league last year and am as familiar as he is (pretty much)...

You select your 9 or so players each week from your total of 14 or so (not sure of the final numbers for this year)... and you compete with a different person each round until the last 4 rounds (finals), just as in DT and SC. However wins are determined on a category basis. I believe they are score, accuracy, kicks, handballs, hitouts, tackles, marks, frees for and frees against. So while you may have a team with Barlow, Ablett, Riewoldt etc etc all getting a whole heap of touches... I might have a team with Sandilands (hitouts), Riewoldt (score + accuracy), Bolton (tackles) and a backline waxer like Bruce who takes a lot of marks... and that would be my five categories sewn up. You could double my kicks and handballs and I'd still win the game on categories won. I had a pretty good year last year on the basis I was very good in one or two categories, and ok in all the rest.

As far as trading goes, that's a bit more complicated. You can propose a trade at any time... but they take something like 48 hours to be completed. Once proposed the rest of the league can veto the trade if, I think, two managers vote against it. Likewise there's a complicated "waver" system when it comes to delisted players. If you have draft pick #1, then when a player is delisted you are given the first opportunity to sign him. If you take that opportunity, you drop to last in the delisted player waiver order...

JA will confirm this, but it works something like that. And there's obviously a cap on the amount of players you can sign in a season. I'm also not sure how the bye will operate this year. ie if it's a situation where you get the average of any player in a team on bye week, or you get to sign an extra one that week... etc etc

In terms of the season proper, you will find most teams signed too heavily on forwards... and have to trade one or two for a ruckman. Or maybe have only two defenders and too many mids... something like that. It's always good to have a couple of trade-bait players. Signing players is really just a back-up plan sort of thing. At the start of the season you might have a good defender go down for the year, and you simply sign the next best ranked defender who might become your best player in a few games. This happens in the first 6-8 weeks, but after that, with so many injuries, the delisted players resource becomes VERY scarce. Also we had only 12 players last year, so I imagine it will be even more challenging. Trading is really where the game is at though. You have to really wine and dine your opponents to argue the point when it comes to picking up a certain player. I traded Sylvia for Davey and Morton last season... and it worked out ok for me. I also got rid of Leon Davis and picked up Luke Power, which worked out beautifully. And signed Cam Bruce for nothing... and he was one of my best!

IMO it completely outstrips DT and SC. We found when we went to games, we would spend half the time watching the game, and since we played Sunday so often, we would spend large chunks of our time watching only one or two players, hoping for a single kick or mark. The GF for the season went right down to the last second of the Roos vs Dees match where JA needed one player to get a mark/kick to win the game.

This is gonna be awesome.

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How is the scoring done?

Similar to DT or SC?

Nope.

Scoring is a category based system, based on 9 categories (ki,hb,m,score,ho,t,ff,fa, score percentage).

The aim is to beat the team you're playing in at least 5 of these categories, winner gets 4 premiership points. Frees against you obviously want to have fewer, but all the others you want to have more, score is the total points kicked by your team, and score percentage is goals/points, so accurate players can be useful. The beauty of this system is that you need to be smart about the kinds of players you pick. You'll need a good ruck otherwise you just give up that category to teams with a strong ruck. Buddy can be a nightmare because he might kick a huge score but he kicks a lot of points.

The best tactics tend to be the ones that balance your team across all categories.

This year is going to be a bit interesting, every round has a bye, some have 3. But we'll still be playing in those rounds. Be wary of essendon players, if you make the grand final you won't be able to use them, they have a bye in round 22. And be careful not to pick too many players from the same club or you won't be able to cover them in weeks when they have a bye.

There are two ways to change your list:

Sign a reserve player from the list of players that have not been drafted, delisting a player in his place. There is a waiver period involved in signing a player, but thats a story for another day.

You can also trade players between teams, trades are proposed by one team accepted by another. The trade then has to pass through a 2 day review period where other coaches can vote against the trade, if there are enough votes against it won't pass. This is to stop people being dishonest, and making unbalanced trades. There is a bit of an honesty system here, so i ask that people only vote down a trade if they think it's genuinely unfair, not just because they're playing one of those teams in the next week and they don't want them to get an advantage.

Trading can be difficult to do, coaches tend to over-rate their own players and don't think they're getting value from a proposed trade. It's better to keep an open mind to trades, particularly if you have an excess of a type of player and not enough of another.

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Nope.

Scoring is a category based system, based on 9 categories (ki,hb,m,score,ho,t,ff,fa, score percentage).

The aim is to beat the team you're playing in at least 5 of these categories, winner gets 4 premiership points. Frees against you obviously want to have fewer, but all the others you want to have more, score is the total points kicked by your team, and score percentage is goals/points, so accurate players can be useful. The beauty of this system is that you need to be smart about the kinds of players you pick. You'll need a good ruck otherwise you just give up that category to teams with a strong ruck. Buddy can be a nightmare because he might kick a huge score but he kicks a lot of points.

The best tactics tend to be the ones that balance your team across all categories.

This year is going to be a bit interesting, every round has a bye, some have 3. But we'll still be playing in those rounds. Be wary of essendon players, if you make the grand final you won't be able to use them, they have a bye in round 22. And be careful not to pick too many players from the same club or you won't be able to cover them in weeks when they have a bye.

There are two ways to change your list:

Sign a reserve player from the list of players that have not been drafted, delisting a player in his place. There is a waiver period involved in signing a player, but thats a story for another day.

You can also trade players between teams, trades are proposed by one team accepted by another. The trade then has to pass through a 2 day review period where other coaches can vote against the trade, if there are enough votes against it won't pass. This is to stop people being dishonest, and making unbalanced trades. There is a bit of an honesty system here, so i ask that people only vote down a trade if they think it's genuinely unfair, not just because they're playing one of those teams in the next week and they don't want them to get an advantage.

Trading can be difficult to do, coaches tend to over-rate their own players and don't think they're getting value from a proposed trade. It's better to keep an open mind to trades, particularly if you have an excess of a type of player and not enough of another.

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{what have I got myself into...}

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Nope.

Scoring is a category based system, based on 9 categories (ki,hb,m,score,ho,t,ff,fa, score percentage).

The aim is to beat the team you're playing in at least 5 of these categories, winner gets 4 premiership points. Frees against you obviously want to have fewer, but all the others you want to have more, score is the total points kicked by your team, and score percentage is goals/points, so accurate players can be useful. The beauty of this system is that you need to be smart about the kinds of players you pick. You'll need a good ruck otherwise you just give up that category to teams with a strong ruck. Buddy can be a nightmare because he might kick a huge score but he kicks a lot of points.

The best tactics tend to be the ones that balance your team across all categories.

This year is going to be a bit interesting, every round has a bye, some have 3. But we'll still be playing in those rounds. Be wary of essendon players, if you make the grand final you won't be able to use them, they have a bye in round 22. And be careful not to pick too many players from the same club or you won't be able to cover them in weeks when they have a bye.

There are two ways to change your list:

Sign a reserve player from the list of players that have not been drafted, delisting a player in his place. There is a waiver period involved in signing a player, but thats a story for another day.

You can also trade players between teams, trades are proposed by one team accepted by another. The trade then has to pass through a 2 day review period where other coaches can vote against the trade, if there are enough votes against it won't pass. This is to stop people being dishonest, and making unbalanced trades. There is a bit of an honesty system here, so i ask that people only vote down a trade if they think it's genuinely unfair, not just because they're playing one of those teams in the next week and they don't want them to get an advantage.

Trading can be difficult to do, coaches tend to over-rate their own players and don't think they're getting value from a proposed trade. It's better to keep an open mind to trades, particularly if you have an excess of a type of player and not enough of another.

Slowly getting my head around this.

What is the Max trades allowed in the season?

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Slowly getting my head around this.

What is the Max trades allowed in the season?

No max on trades, I see no reason to limit it.

But there is a limit on signing reserves of 30. But this is a very high number I doubt anybody will get close to that. Max 5 in 1 week.

I think all these details can be viewed under settings on the league page. Unless that page is for admin only.

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You talk a big game.

The best part of ufooty.

I just hope I do the after match press conference before Dappa Dan...

I'll never leave the stadium otherwise...

The smacktalk begins... I'll see you after round 1. Care to make a wager? I win, no passive aggressive asides about post length for the year. You win, no posts exceeding a single line for a month.

:)

You'll get yours...

Welcome to ufooty...

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Spewing i missed the league. Wasn't that the whole point of pre registering interest? Anyway....

Apologies MrReims, I had initially intended on inviting people in the order listed earlier, but in then end I thought that would be a pain. This one is the second Ultimate footy league i'm running so I couldn't be bothered making work for myelf.

Is Demonland Mk 2 still open? Surely no-one will miss out.

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The smacktalk begins... I'll see you after round 1. Care to make a wager? I win, no passive aggressive asides about post length for the year. You win, no posts exceeding a single line for a month.

Fine.

I can always fall back onto my love of facetiousness.

Or self-righteousness!

No-one does that better than I...

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The smacktalk begins... I'll see you after round 1. Care to make a wager? I win, no passive aggressive asides about post length for the year. You win, no posts exceeding a single line for a month.

I would prefer the winner gets to take over the losers Avatar & Signature for a month.

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Apologies MrReims, I had initially intended on inviting people in the order listed earlier, but in then end I thought that would be a pain. This one is the second Ultimate footy league i'm running so I couldn't be bothered making work for myelf.

Is Demonland Mk 2 still open? Surely no-one will miss out.

We have three people at the moment. I guess the interest waned once your league was set up.

If we don't get to 16 by Sunday it'll have to die.

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I would prefer the winner gets to take over the losers Avatar & Signature for a month.

I'm not going to get into the fact that that won't work after Rd 2 but instead complain that my avatar and signature is the IP of rpfc and on-one else is welcome to it.

That is all.

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We have three people at the moment. I guess the interest waned once your league was set up.

If we don't get to 16 by Sunday it'll have to die.

Not necessarily, your draft can be until Rd 1 I believe.

You might have to start your own thread though, that may be the imapasse.

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We have three people at the moment. I guess the interest waned once your league was set up.

If we don't get to 16 by Sunday it'll have to die.

12 worked well last year for me, at least you get qulaity players in your teams.

Plus you have plenty of time before March 24 to run the draft, especially if you run a hard line in respect to your time limit.

You could PM everyone in the list (start of thread) not already in a league. I have in Demonland 1:

1. DeeVoted

2. Dappa Dan

3. robbo24

4. High Tower

5. Range Rover

6. Demon Land7

7. JAKO13

8. 45HG16

9. jayceebee31

10. Old Man Rivers

11. Mad_Melbourne

12. Eth38

13. JackAttack

14. snomeD

15. rpfc

16. scarlett

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