GRIMES!

Good to see Grimes back, if only for the fact we now know his back injury isnt serious! Well, it isnt at the moment anyway, I'm sure it will be something he and the club have to manage for his whole career, but I have faith they'll be able to.

It's a very interesting bench.

I'd like to see Moloney play, purely because I want him to play out a whole season. I think that would be good for him mentally to get that under his belt, and then continue on with his good form.

I'd also like to see Sylvia play, as he was in great form before the suspension, and he needs to try and recapture and build upon that as quickly as possible, for both his sakes and the clubs.

Morton was good last week, so he'll likely get a go, unless they're thinking of resting him. He did alot less running last week though, so maybe that was his rest?

Unsure about the rest. Correct me if I'm wrong, but Spencer has barely played a full game in VFL seniors since returning from injury has he? I think he played a half in the Reserves, and most of last weeks game in the Seniors?

Best team they can select dear boy and that's what matters.

Would have been easy to leave out Frawley and Grimes in particular. And yes--I think they will win quite nicely. Don't bother looking at the forward line as selected--just look at the squad and see who may play there and you won't feel so certain. Of course Bailey will pick taggers for Cousins, Deledio and Cotchin and the 3 chosen will be playing for their future.

I suspect Newton and Miller will exact revenge upon a lot of knocker/tankers in the best possible way!

Looking forward to seeing you there cheering them on and singing the song!

Donny Donny! You just don't see the Big picture do you. You are happy to see The Demons win a handful of games against crap teams, & then go home Proud of the Teams efforts. Good on ya if that rattles your cage. I want The Demons to Rule in Late September.

Would you like to Reserve a seat for that? Or is that aiming a little too high?

Have a Hot Cuppa & get back to me...ok

I'd like to see Moloney play, purely because I want him to play out a whole season. I think that would be good for him mentally to get that under his belt, and then continue on with his good form.

Agree completley.

If Moloney gets 'dropped' 'rested' or whatever you wanna call it, that would be so disheartening for him (and will stuff up my SuperCoach team). I want him to play all 22 this year, and have a red-hot crack at Davey and Bruce for the Bluey. He certainly deserves it given the horrid run he's had with injury.

I just can't see any reason behind him not being named in the starting 22. edit: Tanking aside

Of course Bailey will pick taggers for Cousins, Deledio and Cotchin and the 3 chosen will be playing for their future.

I have taken Delidio as my Supercoach captain because i fully expect there not to be a hard tag on him.

I hope we Lose like last weekend, a 2-4goal loss will be nice....

Good decision. I'm also thinking this game should not be our greatest losing challenge to year end, given Rawlings desire. Still not sure if we can meet every disturbing West Coast Eagles challenge. They're proven experts at this caper over the last 2 years.

To play at St.Kilda"s level in 2-3 years we have got to make hard & Tough Decisions.

I hope The Club is united on this Front. Bailey must stay Like a Rock & Back his Judgements All the Way.

2 Years Ago Saint supporters wanted Lyons Blood. But for once that club stood Firm.

We must take the same attitude. Stuff Wet Coke. that win against Hawthorn will Hopefully Bite them Hard.

Sylvia is playing for Casey this week.

Are you sure?

....and Matty Warnock up forward for a very well-earned rest from defensive duties..

Well, this from Nathan Jones' Twitter page tonight........

"Just finished the main session ... boys trained well... matty warnock slotted a few down forward maybe a position change for the big fella"

Sounds like a good idea to me, ahem.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Spencer has barely played a full game in VFL seniors since returning from injury has he? I think he played a half in the Reserves, and most of last weeks game in the Seniors?

...and didn't star either. Unless we're determined to play Martin/PJ up forward a fair bit to retain our tall/small structure I can't see him playing this week.

If Sylvia really is playing at Casey that leaves only one more to cut from the extended bench. Given Bennell is also playing I'm not sure we need Wheels.

No Brock McLean again, will they declare he's put the cue in the rack for the year sometime next week?

Also, have a look at the Bombres side, they're giving West Coast a great chance to win at home: Lloyd, McVeigh, Davey and Winderlich all out injured!

West Coast wouldn't win if the Bombers forfeited. They will not win again this year. See todays Sun.

West Coast wouldn't win if the Bombers forfeited. They will not win again this year. See todays Sun.

I agree. Should be a Royal Commission investigation into that Stinking organization. I Hate WET COKE a lot!

I suspect Newton and Miller will exact revenge upon a lot of knocker/tankers in the best possible way!

So I require vengeance because I think Newton should play games at the end of another losing season, or that Miller should be given games to resurrect his career?

Newton is lucky we are 'list managing' - he gets to play a game.

And if you are alluding that I, as a 'tanker,' thought Newton and Miller missed on purpose you are way-off. Bailey will go into the game as he is about to, as young as he can, and will try people in positions they are not used to, he will put the kids in the important positions, at the important times and if they still win he will say "Oh, well. I tried to do what I had to do but we were never going to lose that game."

And BTW, the only poster that I can recall that alluded to Newton or Miller missing on purpose (not tongue in cheek) is a NON-tanking proponent True Believer. Apparently, she loves the club so much that she accuses players of missing goals on purpose for draft picks.

Are you sure?

Positive mate

Sylvia is playing for Casey this week.

Good. He derserves a club imposed suspension in addition to the AFL suspension. What he did (V's WC) was just so Sylvia. The kid still hasn't grown up yet. When will the penny drop?

Valenti should be in again, poor kid gets one game then chucked out again, play him the rest of the year in Brock's place. The way Brock has been moving, Valenti is FASTER. We have a chance to be the tigs, but i hope we dont.

Three taggers in the one game, Don ?!

Won't happen.

Dunn, Bartram, Junior--you bet they'll use them as taggers

So Donny I assume you want to use the 1 win we have left on this weekends game?

Mate--I want to see them win every game they can. At a club function last night one said to me 'losing is infectious and it's not easy to get rid of the infection" Great for membership and the club generally if we finish on a high.

Dunn, Bartram, Junior--you bet they'll use them as taggers

Yeah, nah.

We'll know soon enough, but clubs won't sacrifice their own run by tagging 3 opposition midfielders. They may run a tag, or two - probably one imo, and then let the others go head to head. And when they're head to head some midfielders are more accountable than others, but they won't play 3 mids in purely negating roles.

And BTW, the only poster that I can recall that alluded to Newton or Miller missing on purpose (not tongue in cheek) is a NON-tanking proponent True Believer. Apparently, she loves the club so much that she accuses players of missing goals on purpose for draft picks.

You're spot on.

Her vision must be clouded.

Donny Donny! You just don't see the Big picture do you. You are happy to see The Demons win a handful of games against crap teams, & then go home Proud of the Teams efforts. Good on ya if that rattles your cage. I want The Demons to Rule in Late September.

Would you like to Reserve a seat for that? Or is that aiming a little too high?

Have a Hot Cuppa & get back to me...ok

yeah, where are you sitting on Sunday--I want to make sure you're singing at the end, and waving your scarf if you haven't throttled yourself with it by then!

So I require vengeance because I think Newton should play games at the end of another losing season, or that Miller should be given games to resurrect his career?

Newton is lucky we are 'list managing' - he gets to play a game.

And if you are alluding that I, as a 'tanker,' thought Newton and Miller missed on purpose you are way-off. Bailey will go into the game as he is about to, as young as he can, and will try people in positions they are not used to, he will put the kids in the important positions, at the important times and if they still win he will say "Oh, well. I tried to do what I had to do but we were never going to lose that game."

And BTW, the only poster that I can recall that alluded to Newton or Miller missing on purpose (not tongue in cheek) is a NON-tanking proponent True Believer. Apparently, she loves the club so much that she accuses players of missing goals on purpose for draft picks.

No, I wasn't suggesting for one moment that you, or anybody else on this site, believes the players should tank whilst on the field [although a 'supporter' at the function I attended last night thinks they should and did last Sunday].

I was merely referring to the criticism heaped upon Newton and Miller generally on this site, which I find depressing.

BTW I think you'll find that Bailey plays people where they should be best played with a view to winning--Did you see much evidence to the contrary last Sunday?

One other matter. At this function last night a [very] senior official told us that he thought almost the best thing going for the club at present was the morale of the playing group. In his view it was CRITICAL that this should not be interfered with. Make what you will about this comment, but all who heard it thought it was significant.

yeah, where are you sitting on Sunday--I want to make sure you're singing at the end, and waving your scarf if you haven't throttled yourself with it by then!

Why would I throttle myself Donny? We have some great Talent coming on, & hopefully we can pick up some class young talent in the Draft to speed up our midfield.

I am very optimistic about the Future actually.

But i couldn't care less about beating a crap side like Richmond in round 18 when it doesn't mean anything.

With the new team(s) coming in next year i want a good shot at the Draft picks before they all dry up for 5-6 years so that we give ourselves the best chance to win our 13th. Cup.

For over 40 years now i have watched The Demons win late season Dead Rubbers, & you know what.....They are Quickly forgotten.

Premierships & Finals are remembered forever Donny.

So don't question where my heart lies. I want The MFC to be number 1 in the AFL ok.

Why would I throttle myself Donny? We have some great Talent coming on, & hopefully we can pick up some class young talent in the Draft to speed up our midfield.

I am very optimistic about the Future actually.

But i couldn't care less about beating a crap side like Richmond in round 18 when it doesn't mean anything.

With the new team(s) coming in next year i want a good shot at the Draft picks before they all dry up for 5-6 years so that we give ourselves the best chance to win our 13th. Cup.

For over 40 years now i have watched The Demons win late season Dead Rubbers, & you know what.....They are Quickly forgotten.

Premierships & Finals are remembered forever Donny.

So don't question where my heart lies. I want The MFC to be number 1 in the AFL ok.

Again, I have no doubt where your heart [and mine actually] lie.We just have different views as to the best method for the club to progress. Incidentally one other thing said last night, is that next year MFC will have the youngest list in the AFL.Read what you like into that, but it was said several times.

One other thing--has MFC repeatedly won dead rubbers at seasons end? Your memory may be better than mine, but I don't think so. In fact, to the contrary, so bad has morale been much of the time, that once we're out of finals calculations, we've been hopeless--lost a whole string of games to end the season. I recall that happening several times since 1987, when we became a force again after 23 years of no finals. 2007 is often mentioned, but we hardly finished off the season in a blaze of glory. Last year we finished with a bunch of huge losses which must affect players' beliefs at the start of the next season.