This list was issued today of unlisted players who have been given permission by the AFL to train with clubs as of Monday November 10:

Adelaide Brian Donnelly (Ireland)

Brisbane Lions Daniel Dzufer (Brisbane Lions) Phillip Smith (Brisbane Lions) Joel Tippett (Brisbane Lions)

Carlton Greg Bentley (Port Adelaide) Lachie Hill (Carlton rookie list) Sam Jacobs (Carlton rookie list) Chris Johnson (Melbourne) Darren Pfeiffer (Carlton)

Collingwood Colm Begley (Brisbane Lions) Toby Thoolen (Collingwood)

Essendon Tom Hislop (Essendon) Hayden Skipworth (Bendigo Bombers)

Fremantle Matthew Moody (Brisbane Lions) Chris Smith (Fremantle)

Geelong Nil

Hawthorn Nil

Melbourne Daniel Hughes (Melbourne rookie 2007)

North Melbourne Alan Obst (North Melbourne)

Port Adelaide Daniel Boyle (Central Districts) Daniel Caire (West Adelaide) Josh Carr (Fremantle) Thomas Dunne (Central Districts) Nick Fergusson (South Adelaide) Craig Fitzgerald (Woodville-West Torrens) Tom Fotheringham (Sturt) Tom Holmes (Glenelg) Gavin Hughes (Western Bulldogs) Damian Hynes (Central District) George Long (Port Adelaide) Charlie McAdam (North Adelaide) Jessie O’Brien (North Adelaide) Brayden O’Hara (Central District) Jay Shannon (Port Adelaide Magpies) Daniel Stewart (North Adelaide) Wade Thompson (North Adelaide) Daniel Webb (West Adelaide)

Richmond Tristan Cartledge (Richmond) Fortunato Caruso (Coburg) Adam Cockshell (Port Adelaide) Matt Davis (Coburg) Fabian Deluca (Port Adelaide) David Gourdis (Richmond) Nick Liddle (Coburg) Niall McKeever (County Antrim Ireland) Connor Meredith (County Laois Ireland) Jon Morris (Coburg)

St Kilda Nil

Sydney Swans Aaron Bruce (Sydney Swans) Peter Faulks (Sydney Swans) Kristin Thornton (Sydney Swans)

West Coast Nil

Western Bulldogs Liam Picken (Williamstown)

lol were we not real interested in Greg Bentley?

Carlton have got him training with them.... lol

Seriously the blues are my most hated team ahead of collingwood now....

lol were we not real interested in Greg Bentley?

Carlton have got him training with them.... lol

Seriously the blues are my most hated team ahead of collingwood now....

Damn I hate Carlton.

Actually I hate cheats; and consequently I hate Carlton

I seriously wish the AFL would stop pretending there is a Salary Cap for an even competition with everyone on level footing, so that I wouldn't get so annoyed with 'the fxture' and the salary cap etc

Honestly, if they were abolished, I could accept that we are crap because we are poor and other clubs are good because they are rich.

Welcome to suburban footy

lol were we not real interested in Greg Bentley?

Carlton have got him training with them.... lol

Seriously the blues are my most hated team ahead of collingwood now....

He's only training there.

I can't see Carlton taking Bentley as well, unless he's happy to go on a rookie list.

Otherwise they won't be much of a chance to get CJ.

what the fcuk are port planning to do?

matthew moody is an interesting one......

injury prone but appears to be a good yougn talent!!

So that bargaining chip of #1 pick in PSD is looking like it was a big thing now....

Didn't help us net anything in trade week, and now it looks like we wont even get a decent player with the pick!

Even that random Bentley guy from Port is training with Carlton now lol

What a [censored] season.

I guess this can't happen but I think it would be hysterical if CJ trains with Carlton and they decide they don't want him.

I guess this can't happen but I think it would be hysterical if CJ trains with Carlton and they decide they don't want him.

It could happen, except that Carltank have gone public about offering him a 2yr contract. They'd be sued if they pulled out.

Hey Beavis....this sucks.

I was keen on Hislop coming across to the dees. He looks like he will be retained by the bombers. We have Danny Hughes training with us, which is interesting because unless he has found a bucket load more footy smarts, and some toughness, there is no way known he will make it on our list. I think he is a talent, just not strong enough ot make it based on passed performances back in the day.

#1 pick in the PSD is about as valuable as a half eaten snickers bar and a warm juice box. Nice of us to land it on a year where uncontracted talent is at an all time low!!!!

Damn I hate Carlton.

Actually I hate cheats; and consequently I hate Carlton

I seriously wish the AFL would stop pretending there is a Salary Cap for an even competition with everyone on level footing, so that I wouldn't get so annoyed with 'the fxture' and the salary cap etc

Honestly, if they were abolished, I could accept that we are crap because we are poor and other clubs are good because they are rich.

Maybe we should start talking to the soccer A-League about bringing a Demons team into the A-League. No wait. That won't work as we don't have our own arena to say, AFL, stuff you!

I guess we'll just have to be their little silver tailed door mat...

It could happen, except that Carltank have gone public about offering him a 2yr contract. They'd be sued if they pulled out.

That would be good too.

haha out of all the players available we have Daniel Hughes training with us who has already been delisted 2 yrs ago . Oh my god we are pathetic at the moment.

haha out of all the players available we have Daniel Hughes training with us who has already been delisted 2 yrs ago . Oh my god we are pathetic at the moment.

Stupid comment. Its a pre-season training list >> means nothing.

... ashley sampi ... ashley sampi ... ashley sampi ...

I'm leaning towards drafting Greg Bentley with pick 67 in the National draft - if still available. I've seen him play a few times and I believe he'll be a competent AFL player. Certainly wasn't the worst player on Port's list and was a tad unlucky to be delisted.

We'll use our first 4 or 5 picks on a kid, so I believe we can afford to take a risk on a mature 21 year old who's had plenty of development under Mark Williams/Dean Bailey at Port Adelaide.

He fits the age criteria, and we need someone who can instantly impact on our best 22 - as it's looking pretty barren at the moment.

Because these blokes are training with an AFL club doesn't really mean much at all .Not many will be drafted anyway , and some drafted by clubs other than where they have been training .

All these players have to go in the draft anyway , so if we are interested in them , we get first crack via the PSD . If we really want a particular player , we should be signing them right now for the no1 PSD pick so they can't be picked up by anyone else in the ND .

i hope we use the pick on one of the players that is training with the other clubs

#1 pick in the PSD is about as valuable as a half eaten snickers bar and a warm juice box. Nice of us to land it on a year where uncontracted talent is at an all time low!!!!

there hasn't been much talent in the PSD for some time... look at the PSD's since 2004, nothing in there to get excited about... the only good players to be drafted from it are those who slipped through the national draft...

the last time the PSD was decent was 2003 when Stevens and Rawlings were in it...

2004

1 Trent Knobel

2 Blake Caracella

3 Eddie Betts

4 Lance Picioane

5 Jarrad Schofield

6 Ty Zantuck

7 Elijah Ware

2005

1 Dylan McLaren

2 Sam Iles

3 Brent Guerra

4 Scott Camporeale

5 Matthew White

6 Ben Fixter

7 Cameron Thurley

8 Matt Thomas

9 Jason Porplyzia

10 Chris Heffernan

2006

1 Cain Ackland

2 Mal Michael

3 Ben Ross

4 Adam Cockshell

5 Josh Thurgood

6 Kent Kingsley

7 Matthew Clarke

8 Chris Bryan

9 Cameron Cloke

2007

1 David Gourdis

2 Darren Pfeiffer

3 Stefan Martin

4 Scott Welsh

5 John Williams

6 Joshua Head

7 Patrick McGinnity

8 Tom Bellchambers

All of them have had players who have offered up pretty good service to their clubs (without being outstanding obviously)

Blake Caracella was a fine player-would still be playing if not for that neck injury, but i agree the talent pool is very lean apart from him in the last few years.

Martin turned out to be a diamond in the rough. He is showing glimpses of being a very capable sort at this level.

As for the draft history, it does tell us that it is rare to find someone who will be worth hanging onto for more than a season or two. Martin is an exception to the rule.

danny hughes ey.... BORING!

Martin turned out to be a diamond in the rough. He is showing glimpses of being a very capable sort at this level.

As for the draft history, it does tell us that it is rare to find someone who will be worth hanging onto for more than a season or two. Martin is an exception to the rule.

2005 had a pretty good strike rate. Guerra, White, Thomas and Porplyzia are all established players, with Porplyzia turning out to be a star, after previously being delisted by the Crows.

It goes to show that players aren't washed up if they haven't made it by the age of 20.

haha out of all the players available we have Daniel Hughes training with us who has already been delisted 2 yrs ago . Oh my god we are pathetic at the moment.

I bet you love putting the club down Tingles. We'll attract players later on, when we start winning. When we do, I bet you're on the band wagon then.

edit: ALan Obst training with Nth Melb. Any relation to Andrew Obst?