Article in the Sunday HUN by Craig Hutchison about Adem Yze being asked to sign a legal waiver before being allowed to play in Sandringham's finals campaign finishes with this paragraph about Jeff White and Paul Johnson:-

White is expected to be given more opportunities during the next three matches with ruckman Paul Johnson going in next week for hip surgery.

They are trying to get White to show some form in the last 3 matches..... Not for us..... For Sydney or St Kilda to see that he would be of value to their sides next year....

Hopefully for Jeff's sake, he has a few ripper matches..... Been a great servant.... But time to move on....

They are trying to get White to show some form in the last 3 matches..... Not for us..... For Sydney or St Kilda to see that he would be of value to their sides next year....

Hopefully for Jeff's sake, he has a few ripper matches..... Been a great servant.... But time to move on....

Totally agree Krazy Jay. Time to put him on show for those clubs. With the likes of Everitt, King and Gardiner most likely finishing up. Jeff White could get another chance at one of those clubs.

Another shining light in 2008 switched off.

Fingers crossed he can bounce back.

Why not chuck Meesen in?

I realise it sounds like he's been not playing well, but what do we have to lose?

And PJ just shouldn't play Geelong

Article in the Sunday HUN by Craig Hutchison about Adem Yze being asked to sign a legal waiver before being allowed to play in Sandringham's finals campaign finishes with this paragraph about Jeff White and Paul Johnson:-

Is this secret squirrel paper only ...cant seem to locate it online.. anyone found it ? cheers

Just as long as when Jamar comes in to replace PJ he isn't given 2nd ruck duties.

He is our first ruckman at the moment, and that shouldn't change if White is there instead of PJ.

Just as long as when Jamar comes in to replace PJ he isn't given 2nd ruck duties.

He is our first ruckman at the moment, and that shouldn't change if White is there instead of PJ.

Agreed, Jamar has earned that right this year and White should be played in the same vein as PJ. It makes sense anyways because White is better than Jamar around the ground, perhaps a forward role for White for the rest of the year, give us a tall target to hit.

Bad news about PJ- he's been a shining light in what's been a very bleak year, and also a well-known personal favourite of mine- but i think it's smart list management by the club to get him off to surgery now, and give himself a chance to be 100% right come pre-season, and firing come Round 1, rather than risk further injury through playing 3 remaining meaningless games this year.

He certainly does seem to have bad luck with injury playing against Geelong this year... <_<

Dean Bailey was on the VFL web stream today at half time (from the Sandy game). The commentators asked him about Jeff White. He basically spelt out what we have all been talking about, saying that he is going to 'sit down with Jeff' at the end of the season and have a chat about where hes at (mindset and physically) and almost talked about him posthumously - saying Jeff has been a great servent of the MFC etc.....

Dean Bailey was on the VFL web stream today at half time (from the Sandy game). The commentators asked him about Jeff White. He basically spelt out what we have all been talking about, saying that he is going to 'sit down with Jeff' at the end of the season and have a chat about where hes at (mindset and physically) and almost talked about him posthumously - saying Jeff has been a great servent of the MFC etc.....

Anything about the PJ injury?

Anything about the PJ injury?

No nothing at all supprisingly.

Spoke a little about Valenti- and how hes coming along

Wonna- said he was terrific at the start of the year, and provided the spark that the boys needed, but did mention that he neds to find that form again, as he ahs been a bit flat for the past 4 weeks

It was the first full interview I have heard from him. Hes a very dry man, gets to the point as doesnt really joke around ( unlike the Rev ). I really think that he ahs a great vision for the club, I for one, cant wait for the next 4-5 years.

GO DEES!!!!

Bad luck to PJ if in fact he has no choice, but my guess is they've chosen to ensure his shoulder's right for the upcoming pre-season.

I never thought I'd say this, but I hope Jamar is fit so we can bring him back in.

The rest of the season is quite frankly just junk time for us. Best to get everyone fixed up and ready for a preseason .

Agreed, Jamar has earned that right this year and White should be played in the same vein as PJ. It makes sense anyways because White is better than Jamar around the ground, perhaps a forward role for White for the rest of the year, give us a tall target to hit.

Couldn't agree more.

It is something the Rev (and Bails) should have tried a long time ago, especially after the "circle" came in to play. Undoubtedly, Whitey has/had considerable talent, but he should have been used as a goal kicking follower, when he was in his prime.

Maybe we could then have kept Snake or Jolly.

Undoubtedly, Whitey has/had considerable talent, but he should have been used as a goal kicking follower, when he was in his prime.

Truth is White has never been a goal kicking follower at anytime during his career.

Maybe we could then have kept Snake or Jolly.

We traded Snake because we had Jolly. Jolly cracked it 2004 when he could not get game time against the then AA ruckman. If we had not have traded him, Jolly would have walked out in the PSD the following year for nothing.

Truth is White has never been a goal kicking follower at anytime during his career.

Precisely, because he was never given that role for long enough

Bad news about PJ- he's been a shining light in what's been a very bleak year, and also a well-known personal favourite of mine- but i think it's smart list management by the club to get him off to surgery now, and give himself a chance to be 100% right come pre-season, and firing come Round 1, rather than risk further injury through playing 3 remaining meaningless games this year.

I know he's your favourite but how about a straight trade of Robbie Warnock for PJ?

Still looking for PSD but if we are forced to deal...

Precisely, because he was never given that role for long enough

Bollocks. Up to 2005 he was 100% on the field. He aint a goal kicking follower nor is he a forward's bootlace.

I know he's your favourite but how about a straight trade of Robbie Warnock for PJ?

Still looking for PSD but if we are forced to deal...

Freo have had a history of doing dumb trade deals. Normally you trade to improve your list. Freo would just honouring its history with this trade of a real ruck prospect for 200cm athletic type that is neither one thing or the other. Makes no sense.

MFC would be hardly forced to deal if that was on the table. I would signed before Freo could blink. However, I would prefer to take Warnock in the PSD.

Freo have had a history of doing dumb trade deals. Normally you trade to improve your list. Freo would just honouring its history with this trade of a real ruck prospect for 200cm athletic type that is neither one thing or the other. Makes no sense.

MFC would be hardly forced to deal if that was on the table. I would signed before Freo could blink. However, I would prefer to take Warnock in the PSD.

I agree with this, and your comments on White.

I know he's your favourite but how about a straight trade of Robbie Warnock for PJ?

Still looking for PSD but if we are forced to deal...

great idea !!!

trade a guy who we have developed for the last 3 years , plays for the jumper then when he comes good get rid of him

Rev had a crack at a flag with what he had in the 04-07 period and it backfired.

Hindsight suggests it would have been a good time to trade Yze, White and a few others and loaded up again with the likes of Jolly carrying key responsibilities.

He didn't and now we are where we are. He fell into the same trap countless others have before by over-rating the ability and desire of what he had. Stiff [censored] for us. Its now up to Bails to start again, the plan is in progress.

Bollocks. Up to 2005 he was 100% on the field. He aint a goal kicking follower nor is he a forward's bootlace.

No, Not bollocks at all. It is my opinion, you don't have to agree, but don't be insulting.

White was either a tap ruckman, or played a kick behind the play. He rarely played as a floating tall forward.

On the few occasions he did, he could snag one from outside 50. It wasn't all that long ago, he won a game with that magnificent last kick of the day.

In my view, he was a player that had undoubted talent, which, IMO, was never harnessed correctly.

Cheers

The rest of the season is quite frankly just junk time for us. Best to get everyone fixed up and ready for a preseason .

Junk time for us or for "them?"

Freo have had a history of doing dumb trade deals. Normally you trade to improve your list.

One of the biggest stuff ups was when Freo traded Andrew McLeod..... that was one big boo boo.....

On the few occasions he did, he could snag one from outside 50. It wasn't all that long ago, he won a game with that magnificent last kick of the day.

That was what 2004? or 2005? Over 3 years ago against the Bulldogs. That is the only time I can remember him floating forward and doing something significant. Wasn't it from a free kick thanks to Wade Skipper third man in from a ball up or stoppage? He didnt even take a mark then Iv'a....

Junk time for us or for "them?"

One of the biggest stuff ups was when Freo traded Andrew McLeod..... that was one big boo boo.....

That was what 2004? or 2005? Over 3 years ago against the Bulldogs. That is the only time I can remember him floating forward and doing something significant. Wasn't it from a free kick thanks to Wade Skipper third man in from a ball up or stoppage? He didnt even take a mark then Iv'a....

The point I am making is he was never played in that role often enough to find out.

The rucks were rotated off the bench, with Neita/Holland taking the forward ruck work, with Schwarta doing it before them.

Good followers kick goals. To my mind, he was never played in that role long enough to pass judgement.