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I get the views from both sides, but what’s remains is the club released a statement when this first came to the public’s attention a few weeks back, since then nothing. If there is no complaint/investigation/pending charges where is the follow up statement from the club.

If all the people that commented "I'm not going to comment until something more comes to light" didn't comment we'd be at about 4 pages.

I'm not losing any sleep over this DC, but if there was no substance to the allegation/s or as some would say "on the minor end of the scale", you would think we would of had either a statement from the club saying "nothing to see here move on" or an apology from the player involved. The longer this goes on lends itself to the thought that maybe something serious has occurred (obviously we all hope nothing has). As a paid up member of the club for many years I reserve the right to hypothesize on this matter with regards to a potential outcome the same as who I believe will be in our starting line up come round 1.

And if it's proven that the story was fabricated for an attempted cash grab the woman in question should be named.

And what if LH's scenario plays out?

Before anyone bangs on again about innocent until proven guilty, yes we know.... The above by LH is the best discussion point put forward so far.

Would the club not have a clause where the player has either breached his contract or be seen to bring the club into disrepute?

I'm still coming to terms with Richmond winning the flag last season as is most of the competition. Anything is possible for a number of clubs in 2018, a lot of it comes down to mindset and attitude.

Is Vince in our best 22?

Apologies as I don't know how to highlight things but to answer your question.... We know this from page 3 of this thread, a post by Drunkn167 who apparently has a brother who plays for the club.

No we don't know what was discussed, but we do know the players went to the ALPA before the coach and that is where the problem lies. Wether or not the camp went ahead or what was discussed is irrelevant, the players grubbed the coach, the same result could of been achieved by going to the coach first.

The issue for me isn't wether the camp went ahead or not it's how the players went about it. I find amusing the number of posts suggesting the players went to the ALPA to seek guidance and how to go about it the right way. This is hardly a complex legal issue that requires specialist advise. The right way would of been for Jones and or Viney to speak to the coaching group first, then based on those discussions determine wether there was a need to take it further. How do these players manage all other relationships in their lives wether they be professional or personal. No I don't think it means the 2018 season is a right off but it does raise a few questions.... Would be interested to know what Jordan Lewis's involvement was if any. What were the reasons we supposedly got rid of Watts for again. Were the players minds already made up and is that why they didn't approach the coach first. Really poor form from people who should know better.

I also got two scarfs, and was that the best photo of Petracca they could find....

Regardless of where they play I'm expecting big things from Petracca and Salem.

I used to work somewhere that when they sacked someone they were escorted of the premises for fear of damage or theft.

That she is but I'll hold the horses for now, prior to round 23 this year I had her looking at possible flights....

That sucks, expensive return flights and flying on a Wednesday (that's too early for my liking). We usually fly down on a Thursday after work and back on a Monday/Tuesday. I'm originally from Melbourne so I have family and friends down there and have accomodation options, plus Melbourne has great public transport. The effort you guys put in driving over is massive, hats off to you, and yes gotta love Fox Footy.

Anyone who's interstate.... Jetstar has a sale on today, flights from Sydney to Melbourne starting at $35. The wife just booked us return flights for Rd 1 v Geelong and Queens Birthday. Bring on 2018.

Your efforts in this thread are much appreciated LH.

Is Tom McDonald a better shot on goal than Hogan?

Beat me to it, just got home from work.

Petracca.

Watching all of this years finals I found it interesting as to how many skilled key forwards from all teams we're so easily shut out of games.

I'm still coming to terms with Richmond winning the flag, and on a lesser scale the Bulldogs. Both teams far from the most skilled in their respective years but manic pressure in their attack on the ball/ball carrier and get the ball forward at any cost got them across the line. Our players still struggle with the concept of coming to play every week.

I was taking the .... DC. We got bent over paying any amount of Watts wage considering how many players Port have acquired. Whilst not all of them were top end (in terms of money not necessarily talent) none of them are 1st or 2nd year players. Then to cap it off they offload Lobbe for pick 2482 to free up salary cap space for themselves. It's Ports job to manage their salary cap not ours. They should of made one of their overrated players take a pay cut.