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FB said Poppy was on the market.

I would of taken Rockliff over Vince but not for 4 years at 650k a year.

I think most of us are aware of Watts attitude with regards to training, no doubt he could apply himself better, but there are still numerous situations during a game when I'd rather the ball be in his hands than that of his teammates.

I'm in the Watts to stay camp. Having said that I think Port is a poor choice, I would of thought Sydney or Geelong would of suited him better and would increase his chance of success.

What are Hogans strengths and weaknesses than compare them to Hawkins and Cloke.

Charlie Cameron requests trade to Lions and we're away again....

Agree about Vince, I would of rather we went for Rockcliff over Vince and I think we could of got him.

I agree, I think the only two players that are A grade on our list are Gawn and Oliver, others like Petracca have potential but aren't there yet.

Not sure how you have come to the conclusion that Watts kicking is overrated. Not only is our best user of the football by foot he'd be one of the best in the league. Not many players can slot goals from the pockets like he does. The problem in his early years was that Watts would kick the ball to space where his teammate should be but we had players who didn't know where to run. Watts has faults in his game but kicking isn't one of them.

My guess is Sidebottom for Watts.

Yes and one of them too.

Hopefully it's Ben Brown.

Probably mentioned before.... Just reading Sydney are interested in him. Whilst I'd prefer he stay should he go to Sydney I hope Tippet isn't part of the deal.

What are the knocks on his game : His preparation/doesn't come to play every week? Well that's still half our list because even after everything that's happened the players still don't get it. His attack on the ball/contest? Whilst it has improved he's never going to go in like Viney does. But Watts brings what the majority of the list doesn't. Salems still got some way to go before he's got Watts covered.

Put Watts aside, how would Hogan go in a grand final, based purely on his football ability, would teams be able to shut him down easily. For a key forward he excels in some areas such as contested marking and ability to cover the ground, but can't take a pack mark, struggles for distance when having a shot on goal and isn't the most accurate shot. I remember after we played Brisbane in round 22 posters shouted down anyone who had dare questioned him (yes just the fact he was playing was nothing short of amazing considering what he's gone through this year) when he kicked 6 straight. 5 of the 6 were 10-15 metres out directly in front, do we think in finals he's going to get the same kind of space. Whilst watching all the finals this year I've wondered how all our forwards would fare, some very capable key forwards from other teams have struggled for different reasons. It's as if there's a collective thought process that once Hogan gets a good run at it that the areas in his game that he struggles with will just automatically sort themselves out and he'll come good. Joe Danniher seemed to remarkably improve his accuracy this year, that for me was the only area he struggles in as key forward, Hogan struggles in three and as we know there are plenty of examples of players who have struggled their whole career with fundamental basics of the game.

Any one for Dion Prestia first goal, nearly fell off the couch after watching his set shot last week.

Difference is Crows are one of they teams that understand the need to come to play every week.

If GWS lose Leon Cameron should be sacked before he gets on the plane.

Also I'm not sure how he's surplus to our needs.

The majority of our talent is young and wouldn't be on big contracts yet. Hogan would be on a bit, Jones massive contract should of been front loaded, Gawn and Watts, Hibbo and Melksham but now the salary cap has gone up.

Why couldn't we afford him? Who's taking all the money? How much are we paying Vince?

Carlton offer Rockcliff a contract and we've resigned Vince....wow

Exactly, could expect to get 1 - 1-2 from the Suns plus another 500k from the AFL. No one can match that, not even Collingwood.

I think it will be a full house regardless who plays.

Credit where credit is due, Tigers are in a pre lim, but they are such an ordinary side. I can't bring myself to rate them, take away their pressure game and they have a lot of ordinary players. GWS need to man them up and not allow them easy territory from cheap uncontested possessions. Force them to kick to a contest every time, force them to second guess themselves. If GWS come to play with a team first mentality and get away to an early lead and can silence the crowd they in my opinion can put Richmond away. I'm tipping this as the Giants finals breakout game. Crows / Giants / Storm / Cowboys (in an upset) Crows & Storm