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All of those examples shown were poor to do with poor decision making not lack of skill.

Where would a scrappy win against a 14th placed Essendon get us? Or rd 7 when we play Richmond or Rd 8 against the Eagles. Any wins in these 3 games is merely fools gold.

So out of Hogans 9 marks which he subsequently booted 9 goals how many marks were big contested pack marks and how many were taken out on a lead.

So potentially eagles will have Pick 1 for finishing last Pick 2 band 1 compo Pick 3 our first pick via bombers for Reid Pick 5/6 bombers first pick

Essendon have our pick potentially 3-4 plus their own first. If Allan goes do they get a compensation pick?

Who honestly thinks Reid will stay put.

54 to 7 with 16 minutes remaining in the 2nd. Why stop at 20 teams, there’s a real opportunity to stuff this game completely.

Besides tagging Holmes what else had Sparrow done?

We are so stale, boring and uninspired at the moment it’s actually embarrassing. We’re devoid of any confidence and are skills are arguably the worst in the competition. The quick ball movement has been around for a few years now and we have remained motionless why everyone has passed us by. A few weeks back we fell for the easy draw, great drafting and the fact our stars were back, four weeks later its season over. Pay Goodwin out and let’s all move on.

If a loss speeds up the process of Goodwin moving on then it can only be a good thing.

Haven’t the calls for Viney to played fwd gathered some momentum, he struggles for pace and struggled getting boot to ball on Friday night.

It’s over, pay him out and we move on. At this point keeping him on does more harm than good. Carlton also in the hunt for a new coach. I’d personally prefer someone untried that’s been part of a successful system with some new ideas.

Zero fwd craft, the art of crumbing is lost.

That rule has disappeared this year, seen so many across the games I’ve watched.

Rd 2 Pies v Dogs.

Shout out to those that still think the new gameplan and Selwyn Griffith is to blame.

Fritsch shocking handball. I don’t mind that, we took them on and moved it quickly, Henderson just stuffed the kick. Keep playing that way.

Long down the line….again.

Loving the set play to kick in to the back pocket.

On paper we’ve got more talent IMO, can we click tonight. I’m tipping us as I do every week.

Carn the Dees! Do it for my multis.

There’s losing and then there’s the way we’ve lost the last two weeks.

I’m taking this game each way in a few bets just in case.

We haven’t done anything yet to be fatigued. We were witches hats against North, and flat footed against the Suns.

Fair to say we disagree and that’s ok, I understand what your saying but there was one piece of play from the weekends game that sums up for me that the problems at Melbourne are far bigger than a lack of speed out of the back half and an understanding of the gameplan. I raised this twice in the game day thread, it was the second qtr and the game was still there to be won. Bowey had the ball give or take 10 metre inside our defensive 50, there was a wide camera shot from behind him and every Melbourne player ahead of him (most of the team) were just walking with some even stationary. No leads offered, no one running to create space, nothing. This is nothing to do with the above mentioned problems or inability to break lines. Doesn’t matter what game plan your trying to play, a team with our experience and after what happened last year for players to be simply standing and offering nothing to me means there’s something more going on behind the scenes. I hope I’m wrong but we’ve seen this before.