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Surely this can't be allowed re Crouch: "Crows appear happy to allow him to walk - as long as they get a good enough draft pick, which will be based on the size of the deal Crouch signs at his new home. The mooted deal would see Adelaide trade for Jimmy Webster and Luke Dunstan, in exchange for “steak knife” late draft picks, to take on their salaries and free up space at St Kilda. The Saints in turn would pay Crouch slightly more money, ensuring Adelaide receives a first-round pick in compensation - which would be Pick 2 - rather than Pick 20 or worse if the compo fell to the end of the first round". brad-crouch-st-kilda-adelaide Isn't that blatant draft tampering?

Excellent posts! Very articulate. Are you sure you are a film maker and not an economist in disguise ?

Given what was to come he probably is better off out of North albeit on less $$.

Yet, by all accounts the Board and senior management didn't do much to help him at the hub. They left him and a first year GM Football (Brady Rawlings) without a lot of support. Shaw's post game press conf were heartbreaking to watch. When he said things like "I am at a loss..." it was imv, a cry for help. Help that didn't come or came too late. For a variety of reasons, Shaw had one of the toughest coaching jobs this year. Hopefully he gets well soon.

I don't know but I'm sure there is some there thru his sub committee. Whether it extends to football and non financial stufff only insiders would know.

Rather cryptic, no?

Yeah, I haven't heard much about our governance protocols over football matters either. Which makes me wonder whether we have them or they are inadequate and maybe Brad's role is to look at 'best practice' and implement and or update what we have. fwiw I include 'risk' in governance as risk can occur in any part of the club. Good governance and protocols are there to reduce risk. I hope our football governance is up there or becomes like the standards the best clubs set. Agreed there is a line that the board member shouldn't cross and from the outside it looks like it has been crossed at North and Adelaide, to their detriment.

The best thing the 'football' Board member can do is stay out of football decisions or day to day stuff. Look at the mess at North from their football director calling the shots and to a lesser extent Roo at the Crows. Strategy, governance, protocols, review and re-set protocols/strategy is the cycle of the board/sub committee role. Otherwise they have the wrong staff running the show.

Its been all too obvious this year and has cost us games. After 4 years do you see Goodwin developing a plan?

Do you know if we have similar board governance protocols for the things football like Carlton and Geelong do? Or something we need to introduce.

Folks might have inappropriate expectations of the Board and its members. Its primary role relates to strategy and governance re football performance, financial performance etc Implementation is the role of Pert and his GM's. So I wouldn't expect to see a specific impact from Green on the football department. That is what a GM Football is for. Several examples of football related board roles from other clubs (Don't know how we work). Note: this isn't an exhaustive list at those clubs. Carlton: Board/sub committee signs off on game plan/strategy and key trades. Geelong: Board/sub committe signs off on List Management strategy. It has governance protocols in place where it reviews/endorses any player contract which is: 1) > than 3 years, 2) a player > than 30 and 3) > than $2m. I would like to think that Greens' role is to review the Board governance protocols around football and other football matters and recommend improvements, if necessary. And work with GM football for regular performance reviews to report back to the Board or a sub committee. For the Board to want a football person on the board signals they think there is work to be done on connections between the football department and the Board. Otherwise it would hint of tokenism which I do not think would happen.

SEN interview: stephen-silvagni-slams-blues

Most reviews I've seen have him as an inside mid or half back. In what position would we have him in? Thanks in advance.

If Mahoney stays as GM Football, it will be interesting dynamics with Green. Mahoney was one of Green's coaches and then Football Manager when Green was moved on.

Using 'average' was my way of giving a reference point to Tomlinson's package. I guess I have a different view on Tomlinson being a best 22 when Petty returns and if we get Brown/Smith. Especially as he still has 3 years to run on his contract. If we paid all our best 22 around $500k we would blow our sal cap by quite a few million.

That was my wording based on what was implied in the press release. May have misinterpreted it. An earlier report suggests it would be as 'Director of Football'. Other clubs that have a similar role are: North (Archer), Carlton (Judd), GWS (Bartell) and their may be others. From what I can tell about their roles they generally work with the GM Football on stuff.

Thought this is a good place to summarize the composition of our Board and some of their roles.

An additional thought on our tight sal cap especially as it relates to TMac. He would be on a contract where he is paid whether he plays on not. A number of our 'lesser' players (and draftees) are on contracts that include payments per match played. So if TMac doesn't play his replacement could cost us double. I would guess this also applies to Tomlinson, Jones, Jetta, AvB and maybe a few others. They can all hurt the sal cap if they don't play. Of course players and their managers love these contracts but it means the club carries the risk.

It was reported at the time Tomlinson's contract was about $500k pa. For the giants to get a 2nd round FA comp pick our package had to be well above average. Given the AFL average was about $380k pa it is reasonable to think Tomlinson would be on at least the mid $400's.

We are paying two defenders (May/Lever) about 11-12% of our salary cap; one who is earning his keep and one who isn't. Add TMac and our salary profile is skewed. All 3 have at least 2 years on their contracts so our salary cap is burdened for a few more years. We also need to re-sign Salem, Oliver, Brayshaw, Weideman, Gawn in the next year or two so we need to keep space in the sal cap for them. And we have some expensive players who probably aren't best 22 eg Tomlinson couldn't hold down the job he was brought in to do, was dropped, came back in defence and may be out of the team again when Petty comes back. Even if Tomlinson stays in the team it is clear we have a disproportionate amount of the sal cap invested in the backline. If Brown wants 3/4 years and we don't move out TMac, they and Lever and May will take up about 20% of our salary cap for at least 2 more years. We are trading players out and will delist some but they are fringe players so probably don't give us enough sal cap space for Brown and others. In a nutshell we have too much of our sal cap invested in too few players some of whom are nowhere near our best players/earning their packages.

He said the same thing when selecting Shaw. The selection process looked like they tried to get a favourite son and a few phone calls to others. If they have already selected the next coach one wonders what their Board is doing...or maybe another favourite son is making 'captain calls' again.

Haven't seen that in the pre draft briefs I've read but he could be.

Gil McLachlan connects Shaw to mental health mclachlan-addresses-shaws-situation-and-clarksons-concern/

Why would we want another medium sized midfielder who hunts the ball? As it is we are playing Harmes and Brayshaw out of position and we have others waiting in the wings: Sparrow, Jordan etc. Have we not learnt our lesson yet

We can back ourselves in to turn him around in 2021 like Sydney/Papley and Port/Wines did this year.