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mahoney-outlines-trade-period-plan Don't expect too many more changes to the list: “Apart from Isaac, we are not targeting outside run specifically during this period...We’ll back in a number of players we have on our list currently, and give more opportunities to the likes of Oskar Baker, James Harmes, Jayden Hunt and Adam Tomlinson who can all play a similar type of role.” “We see our greatest improvement coming from our current list of players, as they continue to develop their own games and roles by playing and training together.” Josh may be joshing but he sounds fair dinkum. But, who knows what will come out of the woodwork but I'm not betting on any more 'big' or even 'medium' fish.

This is still high risk for us. We will be paying out about $200-$300k more for the first two years. And we will be paying Treloar about $700k p.a for years 3-5 when he will be in his early 30's and past his best.

LOL! I suggested earlier in this thread that Eddie talks to his lawyers. Legal issues with how they have handled this could be seen a mile away. Hope Adam sues them. There are various fronts on which he could lay claim.

Peripheral in role and level of influence on the key things: game plan, tactics, team selection that the head coach and line coaches adopt.

That may be so but whatever they are they won't overcome two fundamental issues in my eyes. 1) Richardson has little success in his background to qualify him for the job he has been given. 2) Stafford had goal kicking coaching in his role this year so doesn't fill me with confidence as fwd coach. Are they the best available for respective roles? And I've never been sold on Chaplin. Sure our defence has improved in 2021 but a fair bit of that is on the back of Steven May's outstanding year. So overall, imv we haven't substantially improved the support around Goodwin which primarily are the GM and Goodwin's 3 direct line coaches (except Yze). Those 5 will determine game plan, tactics, team selection etc. So the nucleus is set. Other additions will be peripheral to the main game.

Like you I've spent a lot of my working life advising entities on organisation structures, role definition, position descriptions etc. I'm ok with the overall structure. Not entirely sure about the role definitions of the two GM's. It is the incumbents I have a problem with. It looks to me the approach was 'we have people with contracts on the payroll and we need to find jobs for them'. Here I'm thinking: Richardson, Stafford and maybe Mahoney. I find it hard to believe that at a time when dozens of good assistant coaches and football managers are available that we didn't use the opportunity to get the best there is. Particularly as the AFL is allowing clubs the 'soft cap' space to cancel contracts this year. We had the opportunity to undo last year's coaching related recruiting mistakes and we didn't take it. We have shuffled the deckchairs instead. I have oft said I feel our coaching panel is bottom 4. Yze will go some way to improving that. But I am disappointed that we haven't done enough to substantially improve the support around Goodwin. Either his assistant coaches or his GM Football.

I read it that Richardson is Goodwin's boss. Not sure it was smooth sailing when it was the other way round so it will be interesting to see how it pans out.

Only a matter of time before someone brought Jackson into the conversation. Clarke is just stirring the pot. I was disappointed when he didn't extend his contract when Rivers and Kozzie did. Hopefully, it gets done soon.

It sounds like Buckley has listened to them and my guess is he would rely more on Pendlebury, Adams, Grundy - those that play with him in the midfield. That aside, he has a lot of negatives imv. And, by some reports our midfield has its own issues around roles and following team rules. We don't need another person in there to confound it further.

Not referring to price or trade. It seems to me he has a host of issues (that I noted) on and off the field. Sometimes it is worth being circumspect with shiny new things. This looks one of those times. Caveat Emptor

Reports that Buckley told Treloar last week that senior players didn't want him in the team. Brutal. But if true I wouldn't be rushing in to recruiting him. Especially when adding the pressure of his family being i/state, scars from being turfed out from the club he loves. Not to mention poor kicking skills and hamstring history. Matt Rendell's description of him was that he takes more care in getting the ball than disposing of it. That says a selfish player to me. We need a team oriented midfield going fwd. I will be disappointed if we get him.

Updated for: Hunt's 2 year extension. Reports that Nietschke's was promised a 1 year extension after injury. Those players referenced as possible trades. Brown choosing the Dees (excl trade and contract details).

Music to my ears.

That is really sad. Really hope it is '3rd time lucky'. Would still go to the G to watch him play.

Announced by Hudson on SEN but who knows. I just wish they would do the Cameron so we can all move on.

Jesse has nominated GWS. Makes negotiations with Geelong on Cameron a little more interesting.

We have Mitch Brown who could be the current day Cam Pederson in case Max is out for any length of time. Within a game or S-T basis any number of players can cover Max.

So without our games his MCG average is about 1.5 per game. Will be interesting to see how he adjusts to both the MCG size and weather conditions. tbh, I don't expect him to be a 60+ goal a year player but 45-50 will be a good return given the other ways he helps the team and if other fwds start doing their bit.

It will be interesting to see if his long distance goals suffer when not playing under the closed roof at Marvel Stadium or if the wind and rain at the MCG reduce his strike rate.

The Couch pick of 23 is rated as Band 3 (2nd rnd pick). Daniher was Band 1 = 1st round. Band 2 = end of first round. So the AFL has 'discounted' the Saints offer to get to Band 3. Big difference in principle to the Band 1 Adelaide were looking for. I'm a bit surprised the AFL didn't rate Crouch offer as Band 2, if only to 'manage the optics' which the it loves to do. In practice it doesn't matter in this case as Band 2 would be pick 21 because Adelaide finished 18th but in principle it is significant in how it could impact the assessment of other FA offers.

That was a few weeks ago before the argy -bargy got going. I think it had some incentive payments on top of the base $600k. Its interesting that there are no reports of the $ that were in the final offer 3 year. To get 1st rnd pick it would need to be $750-$800k base. A sizeable jump (and risk) for a player who has hardly played for 3 years. But hey, they have to spend their sal cap on someone... Does anyone know if a club can renegotiate an FA offer a year or so later.

I'm not suggesting Tom stays but if there are no takers we don't have much choice so I'm ok with giving him another chance. Tom is not the only one that has under performed his contract. Two other notables this year are Melksham and Lever, also on good coin and contracted to 2022. Like Tom, they had injuries in 2019 and for whatever reason failed to perform this year. So on your line of thinking if they stay, they should take a pay cut, right? Won't happen.

Just saw this. Didn't mean to paraphrase your post in mine above. Should have read the whole thread before posting. Agree with you 100%.

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So many options. Apparently Menegola has said he is happy to go back to Freo so Geelong can deal hm and Clarke to Freo but maybe they would want Freo's 1st round pick in return. So many options... Hopefully, the Cameron trade gets done quickly so it doesn't hold up everything else.