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pneumococcal is different to pneumonia. The age group of indigenous players falls outside those stipulated in the national immunisation program for pneumococcal. All AFL players must have the flu vaccine to enter Qld. The pneumococcal vaccine requirement applies only to indigenous players. The issue isn't that players were 'shocked', 'perplexed', it is that the AFL agreed to a vaccine requirement for a particular group of players but neglected to tell players, their rep AFLPA or include it in the player protocols.

Sadly, his little boy is very seriously ill. Taken to RCH last night. Ablett will probably miss a month.

I am struggling to believe this has happened: "Several players with Indigenous heritage were understood to be shocked when approached to have the immunisation {pneumococcal vaccinations} as part of their preparation for staying in Queensland and questioned why it was a requirement for them. The AFLPA was also annoyed they were not made aware of the condition before the AFL agreed to it and that it was not stipulated in the protocols they signed off on". https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/afl-and-players-in-battle-over-vaccination-call-20200718-p55d8z.html If that is not discriminatory, I don't know what is. The AFL are just not seriousness about racism and discrimination. Firstly, no rebuttal (that I saw) re the Harley vilification. And now it seems they have stealthily subjected indigenous players to a treatment their teammates are not. Shameful AFL.

Didn't like the Selwood style lean-to-the-side-and-drop-his-head into op shoulder for a 'high' free. Umpire fell for it.

2nd chart very interesting. General thinking is that players between 50 and 150 games are the next premiership core. We have 14 they have 6. Says a lot about the respective lists, especially as their 10 > 150 games are at or over 30 age. As I mentioned in another post they can't run and can't chase. If we run and show use the composure of last week we have this .

I guess stats can tell a story. But a key fact is we have about 2,000 active cases and nearly 1,000 cases for which they don't know the source, NSW have a handful. Even at 1:1 that is still thousands of new cases in Victoria. And Vic are struggling (poorly resourced/poor management) to do the contact tracing so how many more are out there spreading it around. I may have been hasty saying it is out of control but it sure as hell ain't in control.

He is still experimenting but whatever plan he comes up with he has a limited/aging/injury prone list and I reckon he knows it. I think he is coming to terms with his team's inability to change game plans at the drop of a hat. He spent big with top draft picks to get Mitchell and O'Meara but both have been dogged by serious injuries and they may never be as good as they once were. He had one first round pick in recent years, used it on Burton (?) and traded him against his will for Wingard. This all says he is trying to take a shortcut to the next flag. Not sure that patience nor player development are his strong suits at this stage of his career so the next few years will be interesting for them. Maybe Lewis was right and he should hand over the reins to S. Mitchell. Anyway, I reckon we will win.

More testing = more cases = less idea where cases were infected = Chairman Dan has NFI what to do! Its out of control, now.

Not sure if inter racism is a phrase... I was meaning from one ethnic/cultural group to another. Wasn't trying to down play down racism toward indigenous Australians in any way at all. I feel all forms of racism need to be condemned.

I tend to think that it is almost impossible to eradicate racism in this world which in its most grotesque form is 'ethnic cleansing' by despot governments eg Hitler, Sadam Hussein and currently China and Myanmar to name a few. But we live in a democratic and civilised society and must do everything to stamp out racism whether it is toward our indigenous Australians or to other ethnic groups who have arrived in more recent or not so recent times. That means inter-race racism also needs to stop. Back on topic, as a nation we have a lot of work to do to help right past wrongs toward our indigenous Australians. Every little bit counts.

I'm not too worried about Mitchell and O'Meara. Mitchell is nothing like the player pre-injury and O'Meara seems to have had some injury issues of late. And they need to worry about who is going to shut down our midfields who are all good form at the moment. I really think our midfield is better than theirs. Their most damaging player at the moment is 'Silk'.

As they say: He who laughs last laughs best! We beat them when it counted - 2nd semi at the G later that year.

We would not have taken King for the very reason we used pick #6 for May: we thought we had our tall forwards in Weideman and TMac. Judging from other threads the person we wanted in that draft was Butters taken at pick 12 by Port. So King vs May isn't a remotely credible discussion.

Probably not well but not for the reason you allude. He is in deep water over his flippant 'hiccup' reference to De Goey's sexual assault charge. Grovellingly apologetic this morning and rightly so.

Ridiculous idea!! ?

No-one cares I didn't even watch the game, just saw the result.

Teams that have a game plan tailored to their Home ground may struggle for success this year. In partaicular Cats, Bulldogs, Tigers. Cats will be playing on larger grounds, Bulldogs will have damper, slippery conditions and Tigers bank on MCG wins so can (and do) drop a few games at other grounds. In some respects this season has become more of a level playing field for Vic teams.

Good to see Cats lose last night! (I will conveniently ignore it was the Pies that beat them). Scott is a very smart coach but their game plan is tailored to Kardinia Park so they don't get all those 'easy' Home game wins vs lowly teams which usually guarantees them finals. And their wins so far are lacklustre, except Lions. LOL, Cats will be on the receiving end of boos at the parochial and hostile 'Boo Stadium' for the next two weeks. Some of their own medicine! Would be very happy if they don't make finals. Scowls will replace the smug smirks!

Agreed. Master tactician. Master coach. Nearly always out coaches our box. I'm just not sure this Hawks team can execute his tactics.

Hawks have named Ceglar in their starting 22 but "AFL.com.au understands Ceglar – who has led the ruck for the Hawks this season – broke his toe early in last week's loss to Collingwood and will miss at least one week". Ceglar's broken toe. Clarkson playing mind games! Either Ceglar's injury report was a furphy or a late change coming up! We should thrash their team. They are old or have players with recent injury issues. They played short kick/mark, ring-a-ring-a-rosey in their back 50 last week like Cats vs us. But unlike Geelong they didn't try to attack because they can't run/chase. Too slow! And do they have any recognised forwards other than Gunston? Big question is will they come out all guns blazing after the blowtorch they received this week? If we show last weeks composure and move the ball quickly we will win. We have a much better team.

Maybe if games get back to Sydney. Can't see Qld letting any Vics in for a long time. Even before this spike they wanted at least 14 consecutive days of zero cases to open the border to Vics. I would say there is buckley's chance of Vic ever meeting that requirement.

Some clubs are currently at Noosa. So it looks likely to be along the coast somewhere. I guess it doesn't matter a lot as everyone is largely restricted to their hub venue except for a few allowed activities.

The team flies out on Monday to the Qld hub.

"Upcoming byes won't be at the same time and are likely to be scattered across three or four weeks but Melbourne and Essendon won't have one". aflpa-boss-presents-contract-ultimatum-to-afl-on-fixture I don't mind that. Normally players would take a bit of a holiday etc. during the bye. But now they are stuck in the AFL 'bubble' effectively in lockdown at their respective hubs. They have and will have plenty of downtime between training and games for r and r. For those with a bye, 10-14 days without structured work is a lot of time for golf etc As long as there is no flight involved for the Ess game or at either end of the game we should be fine. What I wouldn't like to see is the Alice game to before or after it.

You may have missed a key word in my post: "threaten". I didn't say Adelaide did match the Geelong offer. I said they threatened to match: "ADELAIDE CEO Andrew Fagan has all but confirmed the Crows will match any offer made for restricted free agent Patrick Dangerfield, ensuring the club gets the best possible deal". crows-set-to-match-any-offer-for-dangerfield If Ess are faced with a comp pick around #40 I have little doubt they will also threaten to match to get a better deal.