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Saving him for the grand final.

NO! NO! NNNOOOO! Not ...we can almost............WE CAN....MUST..........win all of these....... Same reasons ..........and a Grand final. If the coach hasn't got the players that realise this season is there for the take Ng and we have a squad to continue for the next few years. We have to prise the window open but it is definitely there for us. GO DEES

Would be a different statement if the umpires could remember that the head is sacrosanct. Although the tribunal handling of T Lynch did not support that. Watching other games(we get so little FTA here of MFC games) I never see so many high tackles paid or missed as I do with us. Maybe we play in a fashion that attracts that tackle. The club should ask the umpires board if we are doing something wrong to not receive protection of our heads. Could also ask about tackling outcomes as well. We are often penalised for holding but rarely receive frees for incorrect disposal when we tackle, should we change our techniques of disposal and tackling. Perhaps you would need to know how the umpires are going to act on any given night but like your opponents you can factor in their behaviour and adjust your actions.

Yeah I know it's opposite of what I said but I'd be inclined to keep Jones. He may be slow in the legs but gets to better positions more often. Maybe he thinks a bit faster than others. He certainly should think that he owes the Pies and should remind his teammates of that often and quickly.

Caught up and don't change my thoughts too much. i did like the comment that Collingwood is basically a team of midfielders, that could just solve the conundrum of us having too many midfielders, play em all. Rest anyone who played two games in four days and hasn't come up cherry ripe after six days off. Speed could be the most valuable attribute, catch em when they have the ball, run away from them when we have the ball.

I came to this thread without having viewed either of last two weeks matches and relying on radio cover, with media commentary and Dland adding retrospective detail. i have heard and seen comments on most players who seem to have both detractors and supporters, there is certainly a range of opinion and much of the Dland comments shows just how passionate and thoughtful are our supporters. Indeed all Dland negativity is founded on the desire to continue improvement. I am probably even more confused than ever as I just don't know enough of the players condition and attitude despite or perhaps because of the range of thoughts expressed here, and I'm only four pages in. I do think though that this is a greater test of the coach than the players, and it is the most significant one so far. This game will undoubtably be played with far more intensity than any played this season. Collingwood have everything to play for with everything to lose. They will come out no doubt prepared to do anything to win. They will come out with the confidence that the umpires will rule in their favour in any contest. They will be able to play with an assurance that like every opponent Melbourne has played, will receive soft free kicks while Melbourne players will really have to earn theirs.. They will come out with the knowledge that their powerful and strong supporter base expect to win and will not accept any half or even full efforts, expecting them to play at 190% and to give second third and even fourth efforts on every contest. They will be ruthless. And we should expect nothing less. its why every fibre of my body screams that Jackson at least should be rested this week. Any young, underdeveloped, or suspected fitness concern body should be taken out of the now improved list that we have. Bodies and minds cannot enter this match with anything less than total commitment to win as a team. Individuals must still perform, and individual contests must be won but individual efforts will not overcome a United and committed team. Jones should be able to remind players of the humiliation and arrogance Collingwood have displayed against Melbourne opponents, the players must be reminded not only of the present but of the past. But more importantly they must be told clearly of the future. The potential of this group is greater than any we have recently had and this match can be a portent of their future. But it is as a group that this will happen and some of the group will not play in this match for specific reasons. There must be no internal rivalry but only cohesion. There must be total commitment and support for every player on the field together and from those on the sidelines. Only this will make the possible, a deserved reality. The coach has to achieve this mind set and has to deliver this message to every player in whatever manner is required to ensure they understand this. I hope this can be done or Goodies tenure must be even more tenuous. GO DEES.

Another Sparrow not the prettiest but good involvement

Frittata finally Melb are home?

Tracca best on

Cooney likes Petracca. Melb in full control

Bradshaw having some sort of game.

Frittata kick it this timeOliver Petracca running riot another behind

Spargodees

Zxradio commentators haven't mentioned umpires but saying Melbourne just the better side, but not saying much

I think protect the head was aboned with the Lynch decision wasn't it?

Ding. Thanks for your score advices. Really appreciated.That must have been some last quarter, it even slowed Dland criticism down. Maybe it makes a lot of difference when the umpires change sides.

I live down the bottom and riding up is a bugger. Got an e bike now

My steam driven technology, erratic NBN cover, intellectual laziness and general disaffection with paying for private coverfor what is free for most dissuades me from watching and I can't be tossed going upstairs to listen ABC so appreciate any and all comments here. i have found it good in the past as the emotions of Dlanders are displayed as visibly as if at the match. Do look forwa d to meeting a few of the posters in real time at the G, Redlegs gatherings GO DEES, DDoes my enthusiasm come through as genuine enough. Im even forgoing Mad as Hell for this version of entertainment.

Thanks Ding

This will be my only coverage of the game here in downtown Murmungee. Hoping that the retrospective coverage from Demonland will shield me from or prepare me for the worst and the best. GO DEES

Totally agree. We finally have some depth for rotation and some Lloyd want to get rid of that. Let the bombers take Goodwin back so we can get a coach who can use the squad we have successfully.

It's only conjecture coz I'm not in the club rooms but something is going on. We have some players that have shown they have skills and some have less skill but great endeavour. But both these attributes are so nconsistent that our game fluctuates so widely. It is difficult to believe these players can play so badly unless they have been instructed to. i have stated often that poor and inconsistent umpiring desicions cause frustration and lack of confidence. The coach needs to address these basics with some novel action. If there are personnel conflicts the coach needs to know and address them. The coach needs to instil a total club focus and the significance of winning. Mate suggested telling all players to take their jumpers off at half time and telling them that only players who wanted to play for that jumper should pick em up and go back out. I thought we should just go out and cause so many free kicks that the umpires lose heart and can't possibly pay them all.We are continually scragged, tripped, jumped on with no kick given, let's just do it ourselves and bugger the consequences. We must do something. It's up to the coach.

No the players are responsible They are definitely not off the hook AND if they doing what the coach says that is definite

This as the one its the coach!

It's the coach