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Same, if it's at City Oval in Box Hill. I was just around the corner from there around 7pm.

I would say he was ok at times but there were some glaring problems that are still there... I don't see him being much more than fringe.

Quite honestly I wish they would SFA and just play. They didn't look particularly angry on the weekend.

If doesn't kick goals.... ...and if doesn't win games of footy.

Been saying this for a long time now 'Dee', but he isn't a mid. He's not a natural ball winner...needs to be tried in defence if he's going to make it.

I think Gawn is only dangerous floating forward 'Macca'...he's been tried forward before and found wanting. Trac will need to put in more forward time ala dusty & danger... I've been pushing for the Viney forward move for a while now but we do need to find another mid, Harmes would need to find form and Brayshaw back to the form of a few seasons back and it will work. Might even help Brayshaw with more pure mid time. Spot on with this 'Macca', yesterday sure proved that...our depth is poor.

Forget about them having to park their egos...how about they get on the park.

I think that's what we've been doing 'Ethan'. Maybe time for a different approach whatever that is...

I will rule Baker out, doesn't run through the footy...runs around it, that's why he's poor at the contest. Totally lost in traffic and not a natural ball winner out of it says a big no for me. Tommy Mac, just not a smart enough player to play there. That and his disposal make him a liability.

I think Bowey could do it...I like what I saw of him. He gets to the right positions, his first few spoils showed even at his height he is pretty good in the air and can get up. Nice user and good thinker, already puts him ahead of anyone else we've tried there. ...but would it be asking too much for him to cover the amount of ground a wingman needs to cover these days as a first year player.

Well, at least it will be obvious. On a wing there's nowhere to hide. If he doesn't tackle/chase/run etc...it would probably be a premature end to his career. I agree with 'Polly', we have to at least try him there. Baker is certainly not the answer and I'm not sure we have anyone else.

He doesn't straight line the ball and is useless in a contest...that's just one issue. That also...

...and by the way. Does anyone else hate G Lyon commenting on our games? I find him insufferable at the best of times but doubly so when it's us.

Tommy's reaction time is too slow and his field kicking a liability...If he's not holding his grabs then he hasn't much else going for him. I'm with you on Bedford, just not clean enough to be a small forward...his pressure & pace is ok but he offers nothing else.

For those who doubt the value of Oliver...well, Trac for one plays a lot better footy when he's around. Trac might be the glory boy, but Oliver is the engine room.

Positives...May, Lever, Bowey (the kid can play), quality players to come back...not many others. Negatives...Baker isn't an AFL player (positive, at least we've proven it before the real stuff starts). Sparrow is not an AFL mid. Fringe player Tommy Mac back to his worst when we need him and he needs to stand up. Still have big doubts re Spargo...depth Chandler..depth Think JJ is depth only. Bedford, no. Vanders is done and was a few years back. Nev is cooked unfortunately. Jones is on the cusp of cooked...in reality I could probably call it...he's cooked. We lack good depth...our list management has left us in a difficult position. With Vanders, Nev and Jones plus long term injuries added to a bunch of kids who are fringe at best. We better hope the worst of our injuries are behind us because we don't have much outside a best 22. ...and before anyone asks how I can make these judgements on one practice game??? they're not. They are judgements made over the last year (some over a couple of years), last week and confirmed today.

I still think we made a big mistake not going after Phillips...especially as the Pies virtually gave him away.

Greenvale to Moorabbin is not too great either 'daisy'...it's a pretty fair hike in traffic.

Yes 'Rob', I'm very interested to hear about that...

I'm sure Fox do... There business model is built on outrage.

Some great stories above...was talking to my brother about Michael last night. He's had much more to do with him than me but one thing that sticks with both of us is that he's been loyal to a lot of people over the years. ....I think he had a genuine interest in music and it's people '@Rob Mac......' unlike others who were in it purely for all they could get.

Don't agree with you a lot 'Dr' but definitely with you here.

Despite all the hype around the kid, it's more likely Rosman will be a good year or two off. Missing a year of footy will set a lot of kids back, particularly the development types like him. Natural footballers like Bowey won't have been effected as much.

Please don't put the words "Gus" & "Concussion"...in the same heading. I think I suffer from selective reading.

Poor old "Censored' Fenton-Smith...