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It will surprise me and I wouldn't be surprised if the discussion at the end of the season was about why they went after him. Could well unbalance the list...

They've got a great catalog... "Black Stockings for Chelsea", a classic.

Very sad news, lucky to see them a number of times the last being at the Hammersmith in London...great memories.

Whenever I see this thread bob up on page 1, I automatically think something has happened. Apparently it did a few pages back. Lets see how he handles the injury and they handle him. Could be a lesson in it...

I sure hope he doesn't get kickout duties on match day...

Maybe, but one serious injury will finish it.

It's a cycle, a long cycle I will admit, didn't realise it was that long ago for the last one.....great interest, less interest, little to no interest...then some interest, building interest in the media, players start to think they want it, HO thinks they can make some bucks (forget what happened last time), then interest wanes etc... ...this game is not developed for State of Origin. The prize is the Premiership, it always will be. The novelty wears off as soon as there is a serious injury, it happened before and will happen again. The lessons of history are hard learned and more often they're not learned at all. Get back to me in a few years and lets see how it's going then.

Well for a team that's trying to develop a new game style it's less than ideal. I think state of origin is a total waste of time. If it goes like it did in past years there will be a big deal the first one and from then on players will feign injury to not play. Then the gloss goes off and they don't do it until someone thinks its a great idea again. It's a dumb cycle.

We had no A+ graders then 'Macca'... There's no doubt we are in a rebuild of sorts. ...but we have 2 AA's to start with this time and some quality 2nd and 3rd year players. We will get something from the rest. Fritsch, Petty, Salem, Rivers, Disco & Lever are all good players who I would expect better of this year. ...and Ed would have to be better than last year. It's what I call an interesting watch this year.

Any good senior list has a core group of absolute A to A+ stars...probably around 4 players for a top team. We've lost 2 of them and still have 2, Max & Koz... It's yet to be seen if anyone else can step up. To me it looks like it will be a couple of the 2 to 3 year players...if not then we haven't got them yet. None of the others in the senior list are going to. There will be some really good players in that group but not the match winners.

Yeah, I think they had average seasons to be honest. I get what you are saying about the senior group needing to pull the finger. Fritsch is another in particular who has so much more to give and apparently is working hard now at training. It seems like it wasn't a happy camp last year, let's see what this year brings but this crew as you say is crucial to a better season. Sparrow is another senior player who needs to put in, again appears refreshed at training. ...by the way, I think Viney looks likely to miss a bit of the season (at least the first part) going on track reports to date.

I agree with you and the club does as well that's why 2 of our star players have been moved on. We didn't have a decent core... Lets hope our new group can regenerate the club and get us on track.

I'm not so sure 'Macca'...Max has stood up, Viney has carried injuries as has Lever along with Salem, Tracc and Oliver have gone...Tommy Mac and Melk stood up when they probably would have been expected to do more time at Casey. As far as leadership is concerned Trac and Oliver were letdowns and May was off field. So of the big 3, 2 are gone. We would expect more leadership from Checkers and Steele...and I would also think Chin and Disco will develop into solid leaders. Interesting to see who else of the new crew stands up. I think they will be better than what we've had. Max has had a big load to carry...

Jeff White mentioned this in his game plan evaluation. Seemed to think we would cover it plus with the new game plan...but didn't from memory name names. Maybe the plan itself opens up involvement but a player/players are going to have to step up. It's an interesting watch.

Riv lowering the eyes and hitting targets...

Actually I think Bob does have a connection. Pretty sure he was in a band with KB called the Honeymoon. The Skyhooks connection is James Gillard, the bass player...originally from WA in a band called Western Flyer then in Mondo Rock. Apparently James filled in for Greg Macainsh when he had suffered some injury (I think wrist or hand).

A trivia question '@hardtack '...do you know which member of the Flood played with Skyhooks?

I like clever pop music, harmonically rich and interesting arrangements ...as well as lots of other stuff.

New board appointments have ben made in house or strongly endorsed if going to the vote. The board has effectively been an "echo chamber". So the current board do take on the legacy of bad decisions or indecision made.

Must be doing something right...we win the Ashes series 4 -1 and consistently play off in the test cricket World Cup. Lets hope our footy club can have similar success. I don't necessarily agree with all the selections but at the end of the day I'm just another fan with an opinion.

What did you think when watching them at that first show 'Tarax'?

Counting the Beat was probably Phil's only chart success since. He certainly has had his struggles.

Yes he was in both vids and co wrote or wrote a lot of the material. Big change when he left and Neil came in...that was the kicker for chart success. Even at a young age Neil could write a hit.

He was there when things seemed to be going off the rails, so he didn't inherit it. He has taken steps to get things on track but it's a bit early to tell if it's a decent job or not. I hope it is...