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Not my point, the point is that we got no team or club success by recruiting big names no matter how well they played. Big Carl is another example, no finals, no premierships. We don't need to blow our budget on a big star, lets build our club properly this time, it will turn around a lot quicker than most think.

No we're not, but you learn from them...and by the way have a look at Carlton and to a lesser extent GC. Judd and Ablett, both clubs are way to conscious of their star recruits and it effects their teams. When Geelong recruited Ottens he was an unfulfilled talent at the Tiges, he had the ability but wasn't getting it together on a consistant basis. I see the same with Clark, a good pick up who will develop into a very important player at our club. To lock in to a long term deal with Cloke would cost us too much and hamstring our ability to find other players and retain players who would be much more valuable to us, besides if it means having David around the club we can do without him. Denhams line of thinking is way different to mine, he thinks we are way off the pace, I don't. I like you believe we can turn things around quickly it's just that I think we are better off developing our own. We pick up Viney in this draft and if we can pick up someone like Toumpas to add with Grimes, Gysberts, Jones, Trengove, Blease, Taggert and co. we will be ok. Sheahan is the wildcard by the way, keep an eye on this rookie, very athletic tall with top level kicking skills both sides.

Not sure about this, he seems to have had conflict with the football manager at North. Healthy debate is fine but I would be concerned he may have been getting too involved in FD business. Sound familiar?

Same, I think he has no idea. He decided on the Friday night after his stupid comments to back them up with facts. No facts just lack of homework as usual, for one he said only 4 players on the list had changed under Neeld and 11 under Hardwicke. Well I'm not sure about Hardwicke but I know there were 8 changes to our list, I also know that under a compromised draft Neeld couldn't just empty our the list last year with GWS taking the cream. Kept going on about recruiting a 25 year old in Clark, I know it's not a big deal but he is 24. Facts, I'm only dealing in facts says King What a drop kick.

We are not in the right part of the cycle to go for a Cloke, a club like Carlton if they could afford him are an ideal fit. We need to build from within and both Lucas Cook and Jai Sheahan are in the system, Jai is being played down back at the moment but was a KPF at the Falcons. I really believe in the Geelong model of building your own with the odd nudge, Ottens for them Clark for us. I'm also old enough to remember Templeton, Moore, Tilbrook etc waiting for the messiah, all the eggs in the one basket whatever you choose to call it football is a team game. Build a strong list not blow it all on one player.

Interesting to hear McCartney talking on "On the Couch" tonight. He was saying that the so called loose defender is more often than not a peel off defender, it's not an easy position as some think and it takes a lot of experience to play this role, he needs to make the decision when to go and when to stay, rates Enright as the best at it. Watts seems a natural in this role, to me he just needs to take the game on a bit more and become an effective attacking defender if that makes sense.

No he copped a good knee in the groin (that's what the cricket commentators say isn't it) when Joel fell on top of him. Serves him right for taking a dive. The review panel is making itself a laughing stock.

McKenzie to Thomas now and he hates a tag (last year Dockers), likes to run with an unaccountable eg Ablett, Dangerfield

Brian Taylor = Rex Hunt with hair.

Grimes - future A grader (More consistant game time and he will be one of the top players in the comp) Blease - play the percentages (Sam tries to thread the needle too much at times, tries for the impossible, with experience he could become anything) Watts - he can play (time for the critics to get off his back) Neeld - resolve under pressure (no honeymoon period for the coach, he has stood up well. Will take us a long way, hopefully to the ultimate prize)

Love Nicho but thought his confidence took a big dive after the Geelong game last year. It's a tough game and he needs to push himself 100% of the time and he will make it onto the senior list as a good player for us. He really works hard and has pace to burn, he has a good long kick but as is mentioned sometimes misses the mark. Plenty of room for improvement and the temperament to make the improvement.

I would have thought so; makes a good story though.

Thanks for the report, good to see Sheahan, Davis, Davey and Cook in the best. The list may be a bit better than some think?

Sellar will stay in with Cloke and Dawes as match ups. Cloke is just a bit big for Riv and has given him grief in the past. You're right about Dunn "Big Red", he worked really hard and is playing for his career now, unfortunately Greeny is probably past it, not through lack of effort but he is really struggling and Garland may well be the nail.

Let's get Lingy away from these dimwits and down to Melbourne where he can be of some use.

No, Darcy just wins the totally arrogant DH award, I just cringe when he is the expert commentator (???????????) for the game. More than a goose just a total F...wit.

Close the books, a run away winner.

As a junior could play key forward and in the ruck, has been used at Casey in defence for his development. A bit light on at the moment but that's not been a problem with the GWS boys so I would love to see him at senior level before the end of the season. Good kick, good decision maker.

Back or forward?

Can't read!

Interested to know how Sheahan plays today. Is he playing forward or back?

Spot on, his peripheral vision and decision making are not good enough for him to be the player most think he should be.

hah, hah!!!

7 are wasting their money covering live football, they should have paid for replay, crowd and bench shots and left the football to someone who actually want to cover what's going on. I swear I'm going to throw something at the tele if we miss any more live action tonight or if the producer looses the f..in ball again. Good game though.

I do