Pennant St Dee

Cant agree with you WYL re Treners, he has been very good in his first 2 years, interupted pre season and will improve fitness through the season. Neeld put him head to head with Hayes last night who ran him off his feet. Hayes had little impact till thelast 10 minutes. Trenners has it, trust me and he wants it

Some say he paid his money so he is entitled to express his opinion. I don't agree. I have played sport at a decent enough level for many years to know sometimes things just happen on the field that you cant explain. Sometimes the harder you try the worse it gets. I was never gifted with talent but there was no one fitter or who gave more. This is why I hate hearing people on here slate Barty, Joel Mac and others in the past they give their all for the red and the blue and they have played more AFL games than I and most on Demonland. Armchair sports stars tell you how to do things and what they would do, but it aint easy. Some players make it look easy and have natural talent, desire and the ability to go that extra bit. While others have talent and give what is their best. Players of all different levels and talents are pieces in the team jigsaw and it is so hard to get them all together for the ultimate. Yes I get angry with the boys at times but never would I personally attack any of them, I don't have the right no matter how much money I spend or put into the club. I do not know the mindset or the personal circumstances of the individuals. Im not right or wrong its just my personal opinion

Garland, Frawley, Tom Mac, Grimes,a fit Strauss & Rivers till he is replaced by a younger player Davis/Shehan or someone else will be the backbone of our defence in the future, we do not need to Tinker with it

He may not be in our next Premiership team but can still play a big part in helping develop it, these guys were not part of Collingwoods 2010 Premiership side but played a big role in the side and setting the culture in the lead up Medhurst, Lockyer, Prestigiacomo, Buckley, Scott Burns

Thanks KC for the update much appreciated by the Demon/Scorps fans in the west

We say other teams supporters laugh at/no very little and/or think nothing of us. To many of us worry about other teams, time to forget the rest Neeldy make us a hard tough side that other supporters think "[censored] Dees next week"hope they don't give us a belting to badly on and off the scoreboard

If i see the same intensity, improvement and structure as last night 0-11 whilst not being good will not bother me as much as yo-yo performances. Keep up that intensity and the wins will come, seen some players grow in confidence last night as they realised they weren't as bad as they were in the first 4 rounds. They boys played a lot more one on one, concentrate on beating their opponent, ran and spread better and the game plan was tweeked a little with a few more risks. Maybe just maybe the messages are sinking in and the players are getting used to Neelds game plan

For someone playing only his 6th game, excellant performance. Started okay but grew confidence in the role and actually started to run off Riewoldt and win his own ball. Very much reminded me of a young Ashley Mcintosh last night. From what I've seen this round it will between him and Jeremy Cameron for Rising Star this week

Watch the game again, not having a go but watch Sellar's contests in isolation he is not trying to take grabs tonight he is bring the ball to ground, playing the percentages. Fits into the team ethos

We are no longer the side who played freewheeling footy under Bailey, so those calling for Dunn to be dropped need to understand under Neeld we will be defensive in every part of the ground and he will stay in he fits into Neelds structure as our defensive forward. Sellar did a good job pinchitting in the ruck and probably due to the conditions took the option of bringing the ball to ground rather than trying to take a grab, don't mind this in wet weather footy. Glad to see Morton at the 13 min mark of 3rd quarter bypass the ball and hit Goddard front on. On Effort tonight most stay in but obviously Clarke and Frawley come back

Stuei get over yourself that Ruckman Rhys Stanley has won two GF Sprints and is no slouch

Mids all the way, didn't we draft KPT in Cook, Fitzpatrick & Gawn

No worries agree entirely, I blame Danniher a bit but in his defence and have discussed this with some of the players he had no FD backing, no money and nothing really enticing to recruit proven players. We will turn things around the off field changes will see to this but people need to be patient and I don't want to hear I have been patient waiting for 48 years we have had the new set up only 6 months and at least 2 pre seasons and regular games into these boys before consitent progression is seen

What are you on about, I was annswering "I Want a Flag" post regarding the candidates and followed it up with my opinion that at the time I would have preferred Hardwick and still do, maybe it's just the way I like my footy but I like honesty and hardness and see that in Hardwick

Freo are having similar problems with soft tissue injuries, Ross Lyon was discussing it the other day regarding increased training loads when he was at St Kilda and the soft tisue being a short term side affect before the bodies get used to the demands and increased workloads

Yep definatley is my father owned an Opel when I was a kid in Ireland, they are the biggest selling car in Ireland and sponsored our national football team from 1986 to 2002

From memory it was down to Bailey & Hardwick, it's not hindsight but at the time I wanted Hardwick he played hard and from what he has shown at Richmoond he coaches the same and expects the same of his players

Everyone knew he was coming out of contract, Garry Lyon, Mark Harvey, Ross Lyon were all under Craig Kelly who knew St Kilda were finalising a final offer contract. Maybe Garry spoke to him off the record and Craig told him Ross has told me to sought something out with Saints, if the offer is not what we are looking for I'll let you know. Lyon was doing his own negotions with Freo so Craig Kelly wouldn't become aware and let Harvey know so that is where we missed out

Not meaning to sound racist in anyway but from my experiences in similar circumstances they will struggle to get quality witness depositions from those in attendance, whether that be through fear of retribution, intoxication, language barriers in being able to put into statement what they witnessed. Also need to consider if Liam was not in the AFL his defence would be left to an ALS lawyer, whilst I would consider the club has arranged a quality QC from Melbourne to act on his behalf. So whilst having no intimate knowledge of the incident I am optimistic that it may pan out well for Liam, but he is only human and I am sure it will be playing on his mind till it is finally put to bed one way or another

He IMO is the best game day coach. Not a slight on Neeld as I think he will be a good coach given time, but when you are looking for best available, we talk about missing out on players but by playing by the rules with his agent Craig Kelly and not speaking with him while he was coming out of contract at Saints, Freo took the initiative and grabbed him

Please have a look at Dean Cox in a Derby game around 2001 missed a gimme goal from 10metres out, it happens harsh call on one howler

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Keep your chin up old dee and if that is the case sure what better way to celebrate number 13 then having a drink with Jim and the red fox, always look at the positives mate. And WYL I agree with your post on this just need to be patient. It's like earning brownie points off the misses when you know you have a big night ahead planned out with the lads, hard yards for reward

We are not tanking FFS anyone who thinks otherwise is either trying to sell papers or has an agenda. It's round 3 and whilst Im not filled with enthusiasm of a big turn around to come it's far to early to write the season off. If in another 6 rounds we are still winless and there is absolutley no sign of improvement, then it's not tanking it's thanks we know the older brigade can not change so 1 farewell game before spending the season at Casey, and we just play the younger players so by middle to end of 2013 they know the game plan inside out.(but that in itself raises issues with salary cap for player payments of rookies and new draftees)

Don't confuse Shane's playing up to the camera as the way he is, you don't have to be a straight A student to know football. From his articles I have read and the way he speaks when analysing games and when he is being serious he makes a lot of valid points