Pennant St Dee

Top 8 Certainties Hawks - they are going to go close again but they have been blessed with a good run of non-season ending injuries to their absolute stars and game changers over 3 years Port - Ryder final piece in the jigsaw they are probably the most powerful side in the AFL when it comes to breaking quickly and with run to beat the zone, which is why they match up so well on the Hawks Swans - still a hard nosed gun side, time for some changes in the next year or two with a few KPD's but Buddy, midfield rotations, SCG and desire after 2014 has them right up there again Freo - they are a machine yes Pav, Sandi, Mcpharlin & Johnson are all getting on but this side just gets the job done, will be top 8 just not sure if they will make the Top 4 Top 8 contenders and this is done without looking at or taking into account the draw Cats - been expecting them to fall for a while Kardinia is still a massive bonus for wins in the bag and Hawkins/Clarke will cause headaches IMO can't win it but with a good run could cause some headaches in September or sides with Top 4 aspirations Adelaide - been poor for the last two years but still a lot of midfield depth, Brad Crouch is an absolute gun and IMO would be a target over Dangerfield given age and pricetag, a lot depends on big Tex firing and Talia/Jacobs staying fit if all goes well join Cats, Tigers, Freo and North in a shake up for top 4 Richmond - whilst they had a fairly easy run home lats season they still showed the importance of Rance, Deledio and Maric staying fit they are hard to pick as a slider or climber but have the potential to put a good run together and give the 4 a shake North - injuries to key players in the pre-season is a concern as is their defensive weaknesses, like the Tigers they are hard to judge but also potentially top 4 contender if all goes well Gold Coast - showed a lot of improvement last season and another preseason into an already talented midfield not to mention a few good additions to the squad going to be there when the whips are cracking like last season and less reliant on Ablett, but he is still going to have a big say in their fortunes for the year Pies - any side who possesses Pendlebury, Swan and Sidebottom running through the middle is going to have some wins and who knows what some of the high draft picks over the last few years produce, but the Pies have a lot of if's -Reid and Brown standing up as KPD'S for the year, White or another giving Cloke a chop out and Grundy rediscovering 2013 form. Greenwood is a good addition IMO not top 4 contenders and need a dream run to make the 8 but it's a possibility Lions - they have the midfield and the ruck stocks they are a very long shot need to find key big men at both ends to have any chance The rest Bombers - don't care what they are saying in the media there has got to be some disharmony with their list and we still have no idea what the outcome of ASADA will be Meth Coast - they have a dream draw but Mckenzie is a massive loss best defender of 2014 and robbed of a AA birth by Rance putting 10 decent games together, will win games at home and continue to be flat track bullies, but Glass and Mckenzie out of their defence is huge sliders for mine Carlton - don't see the massive slide because they are coming in better fitness wise then last season, their coach will make sure they tough out some wins, can't make the 8 though IMO Doggies - Macrae and Bontempelli are going to be very good players for a long time, Stringer is also going to be a good player, Roughead good potential but still a fair way off, Boyd a big unknown Libba, Griffen and Cooney gone from the midfield, Boyd a year older, long season ahead for mine Saints - could see improvement in their young players but still to reliant on their veterans like the Dogs see a long season ahead Giants - hard to pick for a few reasons, fit Mummy makes a huge difference not sure where he is at, Cameron can he get back to what he showed 2013, they have an abundance of absolute young guns through the middle but where are they at happy to stay and build a side or craving to head back to Victoria. Could stay where they are or could fall back. which leaves us I think we will see improvement, there were good signs last year but we can't sit on our laurels because very few teams fall backwards and you need to continually improve or it will be 2011 all over again. 8 wins is my minimal expectation with a good run with injury, then again if Hoges plays to his potential and some 2nd tier players how great improvement you could see us with a mathmatical chance of making the 8 for a period of time. We know from experience there will definitely be an unexpected bolter and slider, Doggies and Meth Coast injuries to vital cogs has already shown how much of an impact luck can have. Then there is the unknown like last seasons off field issues between Sando and the Crows which could occur at another club. I have no idea but can't wait for Round 1 and teh season ahead

I expect to lose but not because we are bad, I have been told by a few in the know they are flying and as opposed to last season Freo are hoping to hit the season proper in similar fashion to the way Hawthorn started last season with a view of rotating and freshening up some players mid season and hit the end of the season like 2013 fresh and ready for a big tilt. Taking that into account with their focus being on Round 1 I expect them to be making some early statements. Very good test for our boys

Howe, Jamar, Tyson, Cross, Vince ???maybe Jetta

Ablett - I always rated Carey as the best I've seen but Gary Jnr just about has him covered now Hodge - the ultimate leader and probably the smartest footballer going around, knows how to stretch the boundaries on receiving frees and not giving them away Pendlebury - poise and absolute awareness just a joy to watch Priddis - hate Meth Coast but for a guy with limited ability this fella has got the best out of himself and then some, also comes from our local club Pavlich - the definition of loyalty and also a champion bloke, Nate Jones also fits into this category J Selwood - as others have said cops flack for diving but has a win at all costs attitude and will grab the bull by the horns when required

MFC 064 Bobby thats us

Well I am at work Bobby but my wife is off today and I know she headed up to the Spud Shed in Wangara this morning and if it was a silver Toyota I would say you pulled up behind our car. 1964 before I was born but that was the last one and the next one will play some part in the second set of plates I get

And within this post should be a reality check for all Deelanders Sure it's bad news and unfortunate for Christian and us as supporters but there could be far worse things happen to him Dedicated young man as he showed last season and the ACL'S aren't as devastating as they used to be For all those feeling devastated and gutted and the world is ending, you woke up this morning and took a breath = it's a good day

Plays a role, always does what is asked of him and for that reason he will always find himself in Roos consideration when naming 22 for the game ahead

The last CEO says it all The new board doesn't react to media rumours and doesn't leak enough said

Why it will die a death if we don't add fuel to the fire I would put faith in the clubs proven record over the last 18 months not leaking, seems to have served us well as opposed to the previous admins policy of getting on the front foot only to did a bigger hole

$16 for me and 2 x $6 for my two terrorists

I have pre-bought mine vs Freo because although members get free entry, Fremantle Oval only holds 15k and the tickets went on sale to the general public a couple of weeks ago. The rule is if they don't sell out then members of both clubs rock up on the day and can gain free entry. Given it's 6 months since the season finished and Freo have 45k members I didn't want to take the risk

"Sadly for many reasons we have not seen the best of him for a long time, a fit Trengove is very much in our plans moving forward. I hope we see it and I have no doubt he has the application and drive to succeed, the big if for me is Jack's body needs to allow this to happen. I hope for his sake and the sake of the Team we see him returning to full fitness and reap the benefits" I think in the complete context of my post I have covered that and there are past and continuing issues with his body.

Not sure about the Meth Coast days but prior to that they both were involved with East Perth around the same time, so their will be history there

A lot here have forgotten how good he was in his first 2 years when 100% fit, which is what the OP asks in his hypothetical scenario. Sadly for many reasons we have not seen the best of him for a long time, a fit Trengove is very much in our plans moving forward. I hope we see it and I have no doubt he has the application and drive to succeed, the big if for me is Jack's body needs to allow this to happen. I hope for his sake and the sake of the Team we see him returning to full fitness and reap the benefits

Cheers for all the training reports TDI, Ruffles and Caligula, much appreciated from a passionate Dee on the other side of the country

That is a good problem to have, in previous years we have been murdered with the lack of midfield rotation, the Swans of 2011-14 have 10/12 players rotating through their midfield

FFS the jumper logo and club logo don't need to be the same. MFC Monologue for jumpers Current logo for letterheads and business docs etc

I like it! Dunn has proven himself over a period of time, we all know what Crossy and Jones bring and Dawes has shown leadership in the forward line. H (finding it hard not to refer to him as Harry O so it's just H for now) really not sure on him although I suppose he is prepared to make a stand for what he believes in and actually glad to see Grimes remaining in the leadership group. Whilst he wants to concentrate on his own footy and has stepped down from the captaincy still has a role around training and within the club and if he gets back to his best footy it will be a bonus

BBO, imagine getting that out of anyone the way we have been in recent years

Yes he is a gun player but others have said he is not a Gary Ablett, there is a limit to what I would pay Dangerfield. Not saying I don't want us to chase him but definatley need to tred carefully Dangerfield would command the same wage as you would pay both Shiel & Treloar. The positive in Danger is he is a FA and you don't have to give anything up

Mitch is no longer a Demon I have no care for him anymore. My interest in him is when they play us and I hope we contain him otherwise he is irrelevant to me. I wish him no personal harm nor do I wish to see him be a great success on the field at the Cats Time to move on. The old saying "You can't worry about who you haven't got, you can only worry/control those who you do have" is very appropriate in this circumstance

I rate him given his age and comparing him to players I watched closely playing WAFL after being drafted by Meth Coast Darren Glass & Eric Mckenzie they both looked very ordinary till they had around 4 years regular footy in the AFL it was when they reached 24/25 they started to become consistent good quality AFL defenders. Cale Hooker stepped up last season, Alex Rance has only started to show consistent form I think TMac is tracking well when compared with those. Talia is probably the one who has broke the mould of taking some time to adapt as a KPD

Saty it's what makes coaches/footy managers and it's why they get paid so much. You need to separate friendship and admiration when making a decision on the team moving forward They will constantly be speaking with Cross through the year asking him what he thinks, they will discuss the list moving forward and if he thinks and they think he can go one more and where they see him in 2016. Crossy absolutely looks after himself and is the ultimate professional, if anyone can maintain that level of fitness and go again it's him. I believe he is such a professional that he will know when the time is right, he knew he had more left when the Dogs called time on him and IMO it wasn't out of being selfish that he decided to play on, he knows his body and he knew he had more left in the tank. Will he play beyond this year maybe, but speaking from experience as a player and a follower for many years when the end comes sometimes it comes very quickly

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