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Never ever blame the umpires for defeat IMO every thing evens itself out over a game, they make mistakes like players but we don't know what they see, we can guess but we do not know for sure. I saw the Sinclair goal for the out on the full off Tmac, which wasn't a free, I saw us get the free kick inside 50 for Jesse White taking out Howe's legs IMO not a free, I saw us get a free for Hogan's legs being out when one of the Pies players was actually pushed into the contest again IMO not a free thought Dunn was also stiff with the holding free against Cloke right at the death in the 3rd that really killed us but you have to be balanced. We gave them 13 goals from turnovers and there were also times when our players made decisions to try and mark both inside our defensive 50 and also between the arcs when the smarter thing to do was to knock the ball out and start again. Our players will develop this instinct as they become more experienced. We as a team just have to worry about what we can control umpires are always going to make mistakes both ways and we have no control over that, sort out the turnovers and continually do the 1%ers and start again and we will give away a hell of a lot more goals
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Was at the game yesterday with my Collingwood son and after red eye flight back to Perth I thought we both came away relatively happy with yesterdays result. and before you start Wyl no I don't have lower standards than you. Lot to like from yesterdays game and nothing in yesterdays result which can't be ironed out as confidence and experience in the game grows. I could almost guarantee Roosy didn't tell the players to just bomb the ball into our forward 50m and clearly if it was to be a tactic then the forwards would have been told to attack the contest with ferocity or a forward would have been told to peel off and man up on Oxley. So it's one or the other which wasn't carried out by the players. The boys will become more composed and back themselves to take the game on and back themselves to start hitting targets inside 50 rather than bombing it in. We will commit a lot less turnovers and sure even yesterday if we halved the turnovers we win the game. Lot to like about our younger players who stood up as others have said the likes of M Jones, Bail, Mckenzie, Terlich etc are being replaced by better players and I can finally see we are heading somewhere as a team. Without dwelling on the past this is where we should have been around 2012 but we made such a hash of the rebuild we have had to start again. Really struggling to think of a player we have brought in under the new FD who hasn't shown potential or made some impact. Brayshaw - just a footballer and a competitive beast, has the desire to run hard put his body on the line and just makes smart decisions Viney - as above without the bigger size but a born leader just going to continue to develop TMac - absolute stinker early and got pants by a player who when he is on is unstoppable, came into it a bit more when moved but whilst his confidence was down he never shirked the issue, Seen enough of him to know he will make it Hogan - though he was good early whenever the ball went in and gave strong contest, would have liked to see him give away a free kick in the second half to make Oxley second guess himself. Still has really good work rate but very little impact. No worries with him he is a club changer and we just have to keep him above everything else Vandenburg - love him so strong at the clearances and thought it effected us when he went down Toumpas - good day still had a few skill errors but learning to understand he belongs and did a fantastic job on Sidebottom Fitzy - made an absolute howler and those calling for his head are amplifying that, got the better of White through the day and IMO moving forward wont be best 22 but is certainly going to provide decent depth for our defenders Gawn - destroyed Grundy at the tap outs and was vital at us taking control at the clearances and through the middle. Needs to work on that tank and impose himself around the ground, Grundy was far more influential around the ground, but the blueprint is there and plenty to work with Watts - was good yesterday by just being honest, didn't like the dropped mark which resulted in an end to end goal but play like that every week Jack that is all we ask After the 2010 cleanout we are now getting the right balance between older and younger players on the list and our players have the right environment to develop as other clubs have had.
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What is embarrassing is you do not understand what Fitzy did was a throw, every day of the week. Kicking is allowed in footy and if you are under pressure you can put the ball through by any legal means available
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National Under 18 Championships - 2015
Pennant St Dee replied to Whispering_Jack's topic in Melbourne Demons
I'll be in Victoria next week tossing up heading down to Simmonds to see Vic Metro vs Vic Country as I will miss Metro when they come to Perth. Will see how Sunday pans out with the family -
If he maintains his form he(Hogan) will win it and Gus will be pushing for a nomination soon. Hogan was better last week but that's the AFL playing catch up. On this weeks effort the 3 Crows Lever, Kelly and Matt Crouch are unlucky
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National Under 18 Championships - 2015
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Claremont are not the side they were although you can see them building again with a very nice set of players who were not drafted coming through and building good WAFL careers. I think it is more a case of what Petrovski-Seton showed in those games, it was to good not to give him a run. -
National Under 18 Championships - 2015
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Tucker had a few runs through the middle but not many. Although the role tucker played he was pushing forward coming off the back of the square as an outside option, Strauss comparison - possible but showed more physicality and the danger is always judging him against a side whom they were far better than. I didn't see anything today to suggest he has a good inside game but that can be overcome because he showed good workrate to provide second options and follow up his good work. -
National Under 18 Championships - 2015
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WA vs Vic Country Well sorry for the delay in getting this out but have between busy afternoon and computer problems only getting onto it now. Schache was outstanding from the very outset, loved his strength in contested marking situations and his awareness to lead hard when the opportunity arose, delivery to space from Matheson, Sympkin, Ainsworth, Holmes, Tucker left the defender with no chance. Schache showed some arrogance at times which I think is a good quality in a young forward. Ah Chee up forward for WA had limited opportunity but he is a gun and will be sought after due to his ability to turn a game from limited opportunities. Really liked teh defensive work of Collins who is a big boy and was surprisingly very clean below his knees and made good decisions by foot. WA had solid contributions from Jimmy Harrold and Hinchcliffe all day long but the WA boys lacked depth through the middle and it is no surprise their best period in the game came in the third when Pepper-Powell, Clark and Hinchcliffe were all winning the clearances with Goddard being the better ruckman on the ground as he was for the day. Some notes of interest First Quarter: Schache shows strength holding front position with a high floating ball delivered in quickly but not effectively, Schache positioned his body well enough to hold off defender and take a strong mark above his head. Unfortunately put the ball to the wrong side, although I do like his smooth kicking action 2 very solid pressure efforts inside forward 50m from Eades resulted in turnover and goal WA turnover ball forward of centre wing and ball ends up in hands of Sympkin who after short run sees strong lead from Schache who starts lead as soon as he sees turnover. Sympkins perfect pass lands on chest of Schache with defender trailing behind him Another WA turnover ends up in hands of Darcy Tucker who after quick 1-2 gathers with great run and delivers a long pass over defenders to top of square where Schache who is moving backwards and has presence of mind to use body to hold off full back and bring ball to ground for crumbing forward to goal. Not certain but think the goal was by Number 28 very brave effort by Harrold takes strong contested mark backing in at half back and takes off to deliver a quality 35/40m pass to chest of leading HF strong effort inside forward 50 by Sympkin, gathers loose ball with pace and makes early decision to kick a goal from 40m out on the boundary. Great skill, confidence and poise shown with this effort and approx 10 secs before it was Sympkins hard effort at half forward which caused the spillage when WA were breaking away from defence really strong tackle and turnover by Costigan was a great effort which was not backed up by a poor turnover when going into corridor with other available options on win Good mark by Vic forward Skinner with strong hands and body strength getting front position although IMO WA defender Mirco should have done better, tried to contest the mark from behind when the obvious option was to punch Hinchliffe shows coolness under pressure in heavy traffic inside defensive 50 before delivering a quality 35m pass to teammate to relieve pressure Tucker again runs off half back to wing and at pace delivers perfectly weighted and depth pass to leading Schache Hinchliffe again good in traffic with poise and hard run in own defensive 50 before clearing down the boundary to advantage of leading HF Best 1st quarter Vic Country - Schache, Sympkin, Tucker, Holmes WA - Hinchcliffe, Harrold, Goddard 2nd Quarter Goddard continues to get better of ruck and is also backing up with some good second efforts around the clearances Matheson and Holmes dominating from centre despite Goddard winning hitouts Harrold backs into contest and takes a quality mark in front of Schache in defensive 50m before giving off pass and continuing with run and providing outlet option Ah Chee takes a good mark at full forward uses smarts to leap early and get advantage over much taller opponent Watson shows a lot with several second efforts, backing into packs without questions Collins big half back who shows good clean hands below knees, on one occasion with WA breaking and wide open forward 50 behind him, Collins is decisive in trapping low delivery to leading forward forward before gathering and disposing with neat kick into corridor, Collins continues with momentum receives handball which he handballs to HFF resulting in inside 50 to contest at top of square. Schache again takes mark with strong lead early to lose defender into forward pocket, realises quickly better option and delivers pinpoint pass to team mate who goals Ridley and Clark getting involved and starting to deliver some good isnide 50's for WA but Vic defenders Collins and Wietering either marking or knocking to advantage Tucker and Matheison exceptional at ground level to clear and set up attacks Watson great second efforts after strong defensive spoil falls to Vic advantage, 2nd effort results in turnover and WA relieving pressure Hinchcliffe again brave floating across bigpack at halfback to take relieving mark Ainsworth outmarks taller opponent with good judgement and positioning sense Ainsworth busy and applying forward pressure gathers lose ball and delivers perfect pass to Schache who snaps goal Schache relieving on ball and maintaining role floating kick behind play, gathering possessions as link option in corridor, also delivers quality inside 50 to leading Ainsworth WA under pressure in defensive 50m Hinchcliffe runs hard to get to contest gathers ball before delivering inch perfect 50m pass to leading HF Best Vic - Schache, Ainsworth, Collins, Matheson WA - Hinchliffe, Harrold, Watson, Clark 3rd quarter WA gain some advantage through Goddards taps, Clark strong body and Shaw getting busy forward 50 entries cut off by Collins Harrold showing defnsive poise and dash, decision making is top level Ainsworth strong lead gathers before turning quality pass to leading Eades Schache leads well to Holmes who has run off HB and delivers pass which is a bit high, Aisnworth comes up as 3rd man and brings ball to ground, very good effort by small/mid size forward WA now having best period of game, Clark, Hinchcliffe strong through the middle with assistance from Pepper-Powell and Ridley who is getting involved again. Rotham standing up in defensive 50 and when pushing up ground to spoil at every opportunity Pepper-Powell very impressive decision making is sound, delivery by foot is good and he has a physical presence for a midfielder Petrovksi-Seton been quite most of the day but running hard trying to get himself into the game, impressive second and third efforts after shocking turnover by him inside defensive 50 turns the ball over, puts body on line to spoil forward pass follows up with bone jarring tackle and WA move ball to forward 50 at pace Sympkin goes hard in 3 on 1 to beat all opponents in forward pocket kicks % option to top of square Rotham spoils Petrovski-Seton shows one for the highlight reel, runs of back of square at centre bounce meets ball at speed which he gathers and delivers inside 50 from centre square at speed, after after some solid work by Jones WA lock ball in and Clark using big body at clearance goals Best Vic - Sympkin, Holmes, Schache, Ainsworth, Collins WA- Rotham, Pepper-Powell, Clark, Harrold 4th Quarter Ah Chee holds up well in strong tackle to get his kick off to goal Clark continues off from 3rd quarter with some good strong clearance work Collins continues to impress by beating direct opponent and also rolling off to spoil, however he chooses this option well also has a knack of backing team mate and rolling off to provide outlet option or gather loose ball, lot to like about this kid Pepper-Powell shows extra tools by resting across HFF and bringing ball to ground in a couple of contest Schache moves to behind ball and starts to show quality delivery and poise for such a big man, duel option down the track as forward or defender going to push him right to top of draft. Once sting is out of the game he goes back to forward 50 where he continues to dominate. His set shot is fluid and looks effortless Ah Chee ignores Pepper-Powell who is free in space around 40 m out and blazes away from 45m out close to boundary So basically a dominant display by Vic Country who just had far more contributors across the ground and overall had the much bigger bodies at the contest, better structures setting up from HB and through the corridor and with the smart powerful leading Schache they are a good strong side. For drafting Schache - Top 5 easily and on this effort Carlton/Suns/Saints will take him with Pick 1. not just a forward, but why wouldn't you play him there. Shows a lot of Hogan's hard working attitude and some swagger. Direct opponent was undersized but could not have asked for a better display from your key forward who imposed himslef on the game Collins - not as highly touted as Weitering but the best defender on the ground, showed great anticipation and decision making matched with good ball use and also provided options going forward. Tucker - not overly busy but everything he did he did well. His disposal was excellent as was his decision making. Good runner and will also be able to run on ball Ainsworth - size will go against him but very good by foot and a busy forward who shows enough to suggest he could rotate through the middle. A lot of Jack Lonie about this kid Holmes - rated him above Matheson over the 4 quarters because he was harder at it throughout and was busy when Vic Country got on top early. Not a big mid but has some good aggression and did not shirk any contests WA Clark - not exceptional but just makes the right decisions, I think he will go second round because he wont have one of those impressive highlight reels but may surprise recruiters, especially if he gets into a strong midfield Hinchliffe - not a big mid but brave and a very good user of the footy by hand and foot. Will go late or rookie but I like kids who stand up in a team under the pump and that is what he did Harrold - as above stood up for the entire game in a defence that was getting no let up. Showed plenty of poise in traffic and used the footy well Ah Chee - showed enough with his limited opportunities to why he is highly rated, like all quality small forwards makes the most of limited opportunities -
Demonland Player of the Year - Round 9
Pennant St Dee replied to Demonland's topic in Melbourne Demons
6.Brayshaw 5.Garland 4.Cross 3.Hogan 2.Grimes 1.Pedersen -
National Under 18 Championships - 2015
Pennant St Dee replied to Whispering_Jack's topic in Melbourne Demons
Petrevski-Seton has come on even better than Claremont thought came down from up north after showing a lot in the Clontarf Academy. Killed it preseason and early in colts and has held his own once given a taste at senior level. If he keeps on the upward trend he will go very early next season. I have junior footy committments when Vic Metro are here so not going to see Balic first hand -
Schulz, Westhoff and one of Lobbe or Ryder resting forward requires TMac, Dunn and Fitzy to play as tall defenders
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Agree OD Bail's value to teh side is when he doesn't have the ball and the running and defensive pressure he provides
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National Under 18 Championships - 2015
Pennant St Dee replied to Whispering_Jack's topic in Melbourne Demons
2 young terrorists heavily involved in sport will do that to you OD, heading over in a few weeks to QB with my oldest who supports the ferals -
National Under 18 Championships - 2015
Pennant St Dee replied to Whispering_Jack's topic in Melbourne Demons
I was at the game on Saturday WA vs SA and whilst Partington was good and took all the headlines William Snelling for me was the most impressive on the ground, keeps himself nice and busy and uses the ball really well. A lot of Keiran Jack/Hannebery about him but he is not the biggest mid going around so I think he may go second round. I first saw Sam Pepper-Powell come through the Mount Hawthorn JFC in 2012 and he has been a stand out form a very early age. Can't get drafted till 2016 but was WA'S best on Saturday. Unfortunatley for him he is in the East Perth zone so due to alignment with the druggies he hasn't got a game in the seniors yet but is definitley good enough. Greg Clark was his usual smooth self and now has the ability to also play through the middle and Jake Waterman could be an interesting one. Alec Waterman is a nice player but very vanilla, Jake is similar but has the extra size so whether or not Meth Coast commit to him will be of interest. Levi Ridley is another who will rise up the rankings on what I have seen very impressive in WAFL senior games I have seen him play but I am aware there are some attitude issues, nothing major that can't be ironed out. Heading to the game this week and hoping to see how much Parish has come on he caught my eye last season as an underage player and I agree with Chaser with regard to Balic, very much a type in the Roos mould with the bigger body to play HF and rotate through the middle. May be the 2015 Petracca -
Agree and that is the worry, they have been known before to think he will get another nomination. I'd pick him before any kid at the moment including the Bont. He is someone we desperately need to secure long term 7-10 years because he (Hogan) is that important to the future of this club. We can build a team around him
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Issue he(Goodes) will have is he left the ground at the time of making the hit, medium/high impact and Jones being forced off. Medical report will play some part also in the outcome
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Wont be that cut and dried this week with Cam Mcarthy Liam Duggan and our own Angus Brayshaw all staking claims for this weeks nomination
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Demonland Player of the Year - Round 8
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6.Vandenberg 5.Vince 4.Hogan 3.Nate Jones 2.Pedersen 1.Spencer Good games also by Grimes, Toump (finally get to put that in well done lad that is the expectation), Brayshaw, Fitzy & Crossy. How different two running and being honest from all 22 changes things -
MATCH PREVIEW AND TEAM SELECTION - Round 8
Pennant St Dee replied to Demonland's topic in Melbourne Demons
Lets get him -
Training - Friday 22nd May, 2015
Pennant St Dee replied to The Devil Inside's topic in Melbourne Demons
Cheers TDI and jimcor much appreciated -
Forwards We need another forward as depth doesn't have to be a big namer as Hoges will continue to develop in leaps and bounds.If Dawes could stay fit and provide forward pressure with tackling and providing a strong contest to bring every entry to ground as a minimum it would be okay with Hogan and possibly Frost as our other tall options. Midfield/Ruck Still our biggest deficiency with midfield depth which has been exposed due to the following No obvious replacement for Jamar being groomed for god knows how many years Viney, Kent, Salem injuries hitting us hard with 3 rotation options being eliminated Vandenburg & Brayshaw showing signs of tiring and injury list resulting in neither of these players being given a week off to freshen up Vince having the bare minimum pre season which was always going to catch up with him Jones and Tyson carrying niggles which has impacted on their two way running Our midfield is serviceable and wont get annihilated when we are all fit but we fall away very quickly as has been shown Defence This is our absolute strong point and has been for the last couple of years and whilst not a lot of work is required we can't standstill as other teams will improve. Jetta has become a very good small defender but his concussion issues are a worry and we need to find another go to option if he misses any more time. Salem is composed, brave and great by foot but without Jimmy Toumpas coming on we lack another decent ball user from our backline. Strategy I like others think we need a couple of guns but Hogan is going to need to be tied up with a lucrative contract or he will be lost to us. Taking this into mind we need to be smart and draft good quality AFL players and keep some coin aside to land a gun or two Forwards Henderson will not come cheap and really wouldn't pay overs for him. I don't think we are to bad here when you take our inside 50 count into the argument. Hogan will be a gun and despite my reservations earlier in the season Kent was applying himself and proving himself to be a good defensive forward and the pace to worry defences going the other way. Garlett will be better when we get more of the ball in the forward 50 and my focus would be more towards the midfield ruck stocks with players like Kent, Brayshaw, Petracca, Viney, Vince, Vandenburg doing plenty of rotations through in the same style as the Swans, while having Hogan, Frost & Dawes/Pedersen as your 3 talls. Aaron Black Sam Reid Midfield/Ruck Luenberger has been a good ruckman but has been past by Martin, he is young enough to have a decent price tag so I wouldn't go all out for him unless he is a free agent my trade currency would be targeted toward 1 or 2 gun mids. I have seen a lot of Jon Griffen in the WAFL and he is still a decent ruckman and IMO better than what we have. He wants game time and is always going to struggle to get in ahead of Sandilands. Shiel he is an absolute gun and will take our first pick and then some, you can also guarantee Pies, Tigers and Blues will be throwing a lot of cash his way. So he will be a hard get as will Treloar and any one of these will be an A grade addition to which ever team gets them. Josh Kelly is another who will be a target but not sure how serious the talk of him moving is. Hannebery does he want to come home or not another great target but I don't see him moving. Aish showed a lot early and his head isn't in the right space currently but he can play and a new environment would help but definitely buyer beware with him. Dangerfield is in the same boat as Treloar and Shiel although he is going to command more money and for this reason I would target the other two over him. Brad Crouch is another who's contract I have no idea about but the kid has all the tools and is very underrated when being compared to the others in the Crows midfield. Targets in order A grade targets Shiel, Treloar, Hannebery & Danger B grade but rising Crouch & Kelly Out of favor or just short term pick ups Griffen, Luenberger, Aish Defence A back up for Jetta and if we could somehow find that good ball used from the backline, Suckling is a free agent but will want big quids and I wouldn't pay it as his deficiencies would be amplified in our side. Really struggling to think of any obvious defensive targets who are out there Best available option or draft one for the future
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They need a lot more than that
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They are going to come out and try and make a statement, we need to be switched on from the get go and can't afford them to get their tails up early. We also can't afford to think if we have held them for a quarter the job is done they have the ability to score quickly and kill our chances in 10 minutes. We need to be hard across the board in this game their main enforcers setting the tone aren't there but their quality A grade footballers are, in it at 3/4 time and the doubts will start rising in their minds Big statement game for our club coming this week, we need to make a stand, not stupidly by targetting the man but be hard at the contest and make them earn every possession
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Injuries are always a possibility for every player but sometimes you need to take a gamble and if that means a 10 year contract so be it get it done Generational player and club changer if the gamble pays off