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Only on Demonland is 'Nic Nat 2.0' an insult. It's a shame this 'Nic Nat vs Watts' draft debate has skewed peoples perception so much that posters have missed out on appreciating how good Nic Nat has been.

I think RPFC summed it up in his post earlier in this thread, albeit about ANB not BBB. A replacement for BBB would need to wait till summer. You can't replace him in an elimination final.

I really don't know if I would make any changes. If we had to play Sydney again next week I would back the same boys in to just play better. A number of players not playing well today and that's taking into account how excellent Sydney's pressure was. Based on tonights result I would think we would lose again, but I can't see anyone in the twos who would have made a big difference. I really want to hate on Melksham but my head tells me that he likely did a lot more work than his stats would suggest. Who would come in though? Bowey and Tmac the only real options?

Its a tough pill to swallow isn't it? Especially as this is essentially our best team. However I doubt Viney, Brayshaw and Petracca play that poorly again this year. Petracca was clearly hampered. I can't explain Vineys game without watching a replay. He has been incredible all year and looked like a player going through the motions tonight.

Harmes won't get suspended for that. It was a 50 meter penalty and perhaps a fine.

Wish I could like this post more than once.

I think most posters have been pretty reasonable. I haven't seen anyone want wholesale changes? I've seen a lot of posters point out that we had a number of players who didn't play well. They aren't wrong. Let's hope we can turn it around.

Losing 2 games and being bundled out of finals scares the [censored] out of me. This team deserves more than that for this season.

Not sure what much more Oliver could have done. Oliver was simply incredible.

Hard not to feel like the sky is falling.

Well I guess that's why we worked so hard to get the double chance. We didnt look right from the start. Way too many passengers tonight. Hats off to Oliver and the backline. Great game from them.

Viney doesn't look right. He's either rattled or injured. Petracca clearly not right. Oliver tagged.

Weitering 196cm, Young 201cm and Marchbank 193cm would be their preferred kpd's. Add in McGovern at 191cm. Ploughman 193 is their backup. Kemp 193 is the other who should get some game time. I just can't see it personally. Tomlinson would go to the Blues and be at the same spot in the pecking order that he is with us. Bulldogs would be the choice for him in my opinion.

Harmes doesn't play on the wing. Acres has been very solid playing wing this year. Regardless, he isn't on my wish list. Just mentioning that he might be on the clubs radar.

Interesting. WA boy but spent years at StKilda. We were after Amon for the wing. Now that he is off the table do we think about Acres? Especially with a potential deal for Jackson looming.

What are our chances this year? Adelaide had a big advantage of being the only SA team last year. Have they lost many other players to Port? Have we lost many players to the new clubs?

Was a great pick up by us to poach him from them! All the best Todd!

I had to look twice to see if this was Binman or Saty. Below average post by you here. All Dubdee really said is that he gets injured a hell of a lot. A performance based contract would be ideal. However, my personal opinion is that he wont be taking up much cap room anyway so two years is fine.

Do you remember that time that Viney thumped Tmac in a tackle at training? 6 years ago now! https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/jack-viney-and-tom-mcdonald-fight-at-melbourne-training-20160209-gmphtf.html

Let's not forget the steak knives! Trade 1 Essendon 2016: In: Hibberd, pick 59 Out: pick 29, pick 68. Trade 2 GWS 2016: In: Pat McKenna, pick 51, pick 69 Out : pick 57, pick 59 Demons draft Dion Johnstone with pick 69 (64 after academy bids). Trade 3 Collingwood 2016: In: pick 47 Out: Lynden Dunn, pick 51 Demons draft Mitch Hannan with pick 47 (46 after academy bids). Trade 4 W.Bulldogs 2020: In: 2021 future third round pick (W.B) Out: Mitch Hannan Trade 5 StKilda 2021 draft night: In: 2022 future fourth round pick (Saints) Out: pick 51 (W.B third round pick)

Stevic had plenty of possessions but needs to stop targeting Gawn and Jackson. Plus every single disposal was a 50/50 allowing the opposition ruckman a chance. Combine this with the howler you mentioned above and I think you are right and we should drop Stevic. Salem would be the obvious replacement as his disposal is so much better

Not me. My hatred of Geelong has surpassed my hatred of the pies. I want the Cats out as soon as possible to wipe the smugness off their faces.

Insane to think how good he was in the VFL in his first year at the club. What the hell happened here?