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Ahhh... I was wondering who DeeDub used to be. Makes sense now.

Somehow this means so much to me right now. Looking forward to seeing how it plays out

Isn't this exactly what you said after the Hawks game? That we were trash and weren't going to get close to StKilda? Yes. It's exactly what you said.

I loved everything you have written. I didn't think about the double up's skewing the data. I think that tall forwards are getting a lot taller these days and a quick look at Flashinthepan's supported my opinion. True confirmation bias at its best. While I cannot be bothered looking all the figures up, I still maintain that my opinion is true. Might be easier to ask sirswampthing on twitter!

The problem is that you are saying JVR isnt a KPF because he isn't tall enough and everyone is pointing out that there are plenty of other forwards at the same height who ARE KPF. You also say that key forwards on average are 199cm as fact to support your argument which doesn't fit what other posters think is true. I agree with you that I want a 195cm+ (not fussed if he isn't 200cm) tall forward to compliment JVR.

Most of these players have another key forward player who plays the taller key forward position. Ben Brown 200cm Harry McKay 204cm Joe Danniher 201cm + Eric Hipwood 203cm Josh Kennedy 196cm Adelaide - None, however have Tilthorpe developing at 202cm Tom Lynch 199cm Collingwood - None. Dont even think they have one developing. Summary : JVR height of 193cm is not an issue. However, we will likely want a long term partner for him who is over 195cm.

First off. I 100% disagree that JVR height is an issue and that he cant be classified as a key forward. Second. While I dont want to speak for DeeDubs, I think what they are trying to say is that having a tall forward who is over 195cm+ is preferred these days. Forwards are getting taller. Height IS a factor. There are 200cm tall forwards these days and they are becoming more common. If you have a 200cm tall forward then you need a defender or similar height to defend them. We have Petty which fits the bill, so I'm not too worried there. What I look at when I see your table is that over the last 21 years the Coleman medalist is getting taller. If you include a 5 year rolling average it shows from 2004 - 2021, while the year to year average fluctuates, the overall difference from start to finish is about 0.33cm per year. If that continues on trend then the average will be 199.5 in 5 years time. What does this tell us about JVR? Nothing conclusive. 193cm is still a very good height for a key forward if he is good enough. However, we will probably like to partner him with someone who is 195cm+. The good thing is that we have Jackson already. Personally, I would like to see us draft a 200cm+ developing ruck and another key forward (195cm+) over the next few years. Season Player Height 5year Ave 2021 Harry McKay 204 198 2020 Tom Hawkins 198 196.4 2019 Jeremy Cameron 196 196 2018 Jack Riewoldt 193 196.6 2017 Lance 'Buddy' Franklin 199 196.6 2016 Josh Kennedy 196 195.4 2015 Josh Kennedy 196 196 2014 Lance 'Buddy' Franklin 199 195.4 2013 Jarryd Roughead 193 193.8 2012 Jack Riewoldt 193 195 2011 Lance 'Buddy' Franklin 199 195.4 2010 Jack Riewoldt 193 193.8 2009 Brendan Fevola 191 194.2 2008 Lance 'Buddy' Franklin 199 195 2007 Jonathan Brown 195 193.6 2006 Brendan Fevola 191 192.8 2005 Fraser Gehrig 195 193 2004 Fraser Gehrig 195 192.4 2003 Matthew Lloyd 192 2002 David Neitz 191 2001 Matthew Lloyd 192 2000 Matthew Lloyd 192

Add Lions vs Pies two years in a row 2002 and 03

I had a similar experience in round 13 2014. I was also in Fiji. Essendon vs Demons. Game was superclose. My connection came back for 30seconds as I watched the ball move from half back, up to Salem who marked 20meters out. Connection goes down again and I know it's going to take 3 minutes to buffer again but I didn't care. I knew Salem was a good kick and would kick it. https://youtu.be/w0pbidbaJmY

Port and Bulldogs sit outside the 8 by only 4 points (16). Sydney, Geelong and Richmond all on 20. Geelong and Richmond have an easy run home from memory. Sydney are a little bit interesting over the next few weeks. 10. Carlton vs Sydney 11. Sydney vs Richmond 12. Melbourne vs Sydney 13. Bye 14. Port vs Sydney 15. Sydney vs Saints 16. Essendon vs Sydney 17. Sydney vs Bulldogs 18. Dockers vs Sydney 19. Sydney vs Adelaide 20. Sydney vs Giants 21. North vs Sydney 22. Sydney vs Collingwood 23. Saints vs Saints

I hope the big fella is doing ok.

Scully.

Fritsch is still averaging about the same amount of goals as he was last year in the home and away. His marking is significantly down. He is getting more free kicks and is giving away slightly less. Without having noticed it too much, the stats would say that he is getting a bit more attention from the opposition now. https://afltables.com/afl/stats/players/B/Bayley_Fritsch.html

Thankyou so much for explaining the situation. I have never really been that interested in this story and never paid much attention to it. I'm genuinely grateful for your response. I still think it takes a certain type of person to record others without their knowledge and leak selected cut snippets. However, the other Collingwood players joining in on breaking ties with the club speaks huge volumes.

I don't quite get the point he is making by releasing the audio. Eddie did the Adam Goodes thing. Heritier made comments which didn't support the club (threw Eddie under the bus). What does the audio prove? Have Collingwood denied that they thought he threw Eddie under the bus? Thanks in advance.

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Man... sharing selected snippets of audio you have secretly recorded from a conversation the other party thinks is private. It sounds like bits have been cut out too so it's hard to know exactly how the conversation really went. Dog act. It's hardly a smoking gun either.

Indeed. I'm not really looking forward to the game this week. If you told me we get the 4 points and no injuries I would be a happy man. Bring on the challengers

Even that's not fair as you wouldnt play every team on there home ground and vice versa.

No idea why you keep naming Langdon on the members wing.

I can't work out if he is serious or if he realised that everyone knows he was wrong and is now just continuing to post nonsense as a joke to keep us entertained.

You really need to just stop posting in this thread.

Yes. He has at times applied a lot of mayonnaise to the contact he receives. He stopped doing it last year and this is the first time he has done it this year from memory. I think he got lost in the moment this time. He wanted to remonstrate but was probably in two minds as he would likely reverse the free kick. He almost froze for a split second and when Jones hit him he took the opportunity to exaggerate contact. The article you linked summed it up. He simply doesn't need to do it.

Do you think we will ever get a better analysis from our media than "player X had Y possessions and that means they played well"?

It was a corky that was the most concern today though right? I did notice that the boot was off the right foot at half time though... I'm assuming that was the one that he had the plantar fasciitis issue?