binman

I'll preface this post by saying that i really. really, really wanted us to win Saturday night. I also believe contrary to some others we should have won - we were the better side but our inside 50s really let us down and when we pushed we gave up some easy/lucky goals that meant we couldn't get a 2 goal buufer. But i'm not gutted we didn't win. Why? One, as Roos has said whilst wins are important this year they are not the main thing. Development, building a successful, strong culture, competitiveness and learning the Roos game are the the main things. The game would have helped those things and were certainly evidence of them. Second , it will help us next time we are in a similar position. It would have stung the players and they will perhaps learn more from the loss that a win, particularly how to deal with the Dogs niggle. Lastly (and i'm preparing for the attacks) whilst wins are always best we will be battling with 2-3 teams for the bottom rungs of the ladder, including Dogs. A loss might mean we end up with the 2 or 3rd pick in in the draft not 5th or 6th. That has double meaning if Frawley goes as if we get say pick 2 we would also get pick 3 as compo. No i'm not advocating tanking and wins are what build culture but higher picks won't hurt.

Good point old dee. The list is missing my condition - Pollyanna Syndrome: an irrational belief that the dees will radically improve. The last 2-3 weeks i have felt the symptoms come back. God forbid if we win this week.

Perhaps we can play pop psychologist and diagnose personality disorders of DL posters based on their posts - paranoid, schizoid, dissocial, emotionally unstable (borderline type and impulsive type), histrionic, anankastic, anxious (avoidant) and dependent, haltlose, immature, narcissistic, passive-aggressive or psychoneurotic. Take your pick. Some peopel are natural medical experts so why not?

Heyzueess, that is a serious list of charges!

Yep, good call. Roos has made it super clear that players in the twos have to make a compelling case for senior selection with consistency strong performance (that no doubt have to include specific KPI's eg pressure acts, tackles). Top 10 players returning from injury like Garland and Jamar probably don't have to but for the rest i suspect they are going to have to work super hard to get a spot in the ones. Smart.

Classy response DO. I was trying a little gentle trolling on and didn't get rise from you. Well played sir

Nah, i'm really glad we went the Toump not Wines. Wines is just a Viney wannbee - why get an imiation when you have the real deal? Wines would be surplus to requirements as you only need one Viney. Good call on that selection as the Toump will be a gun and Wines has peaked and found his level.

Byrnes is in the team until the Toump, Riley, Blease or Tappy force the issue. My tip? Byrnes to make way sooner rather than later for the Toump who no doubt has been asked to improve defensively (as has Blease). I'm not sure it will be this week though, certainly not Blease as this is the first really top game he has played. Remember Roos has said 5-6 top games in the magoos is the benchmark to go up. Has the Toump put enough together yet? Unfortunately the scorps have a bye the week after next so no chance for the players noted above (or Gawn for that matter) to press their case when during the dees week off.

Surely GNF we would only trade with Freo if they could come up with the right deal (which you reckon they would try hard to do given their need for a forward). Yes the dees get nothing if they force him into the PSD but still we would want to get a decent return. Is your confidence we would trade him to Freo if that's what he wants based on a feeling they would come to the table with a decent offer? I can't see them giving up Fyfe but jeez there's not much point us taking say a pick 20 and a b grader and being a push over. If he did want to return to WA - even if he is fixed on getting to Freo - we could offer him to WC and create some sort of leverage. Edit: blimey talking about this makes me feel ill in retrospect. Surely we are due some luck with a forward gun. Imagine Ben Hur's reaction to this discussion!

I mostly agree. The only point of difference is that i reckon he was great for us last year and even the year before was pretty good, so in my view he has been delivering for some time now. As i have said before i reckon he has long been our most underrated player and over the last 3 years is our most consistent player outside of Jones. Also must manage his body well as has hardly missed a game through injury.

Show cause notices not infraction notices. If served the players respond to argue why they should not be charged. Have option of appeals board and supreme Court. Will gone for monrgscand months

spot on. We were poor going inside 50, particularly in the first half when we were the better side. Cost us the game.

Parking at the ground is a pain i reckon - takes ages to get out. But if that's not a problem i guess its ok. Coming from the wet i reckon a good option is somewhere on the road that circles around the Myer Music bowl parallel to St Kilda road and then walk from there. Down by the river is tricky at night as you don't get much movement. Up round st kilda road people are coming and going from the arts centre. Its also free

But surely you were moving forward WJ as opposed to our boy Jack who slammed the brakes on

wj I'm interested in your opinion. Given the complexities of this case should we have used grace at the first hearing?

Never in doubt

Hilarious. The poll on afl.com is should viney be set free? Who is he, Rubin Carter?

Nope, he challenged the MRP decision at the trubunal (and won). He didn't appeal a tribunal decision

across all the online footy forums salty is the best poster

Me too. And credit where credit is due. Neeld done good getting Dawes on board

What's with DL posters suggesting dropping players who are no chance of getting dropped. First terlich and now Salem!

Mine was in the 3rd q (I think). Viney gets a head high free as he streams forward with a center clearance. Barely slows down, plays on immediately and runs out of the square and puts the ball on a leading jkh's chest. The future right there. Jamsrs mark and Tyson's goal weren't bad either!

Not here saty. There is no way Roos will drop Terlich, no way. Running out of credits? I must be watching a different game to some others because he's done nothing this season but add credits to his bank. One of the first picked on form but given the importance of a settled back line is an absolute week week out lock.

Funny article from Barrett. By his logic Hodge should have been suspended last year when he accidentally broke Murphy s jaw. He wasn't. Surely that case is precedent for this one as in that case it was determined it was accidental as it is in this scenario. Realistically he only had one other option which was to run into Lynch front on. If he did go front on he may well have caused even more damage to lynch(and almost certainly would have hurt himself in such a hit) as he may have hit his head flush with his chest. He might have broken his neck in such an incident. Which would be ironic given he likley would have escaped being charged. In any case his decision to turn and brace is consistent with OH&S legislation where one of the most important principals is your first duty of care is to yourself. If he didn't turn his body to protect himself he may well have ended up with one player with a broken neck or smashed face and one with a chest full of broken ribs or internal organ damage

Gleeson is a huge football fan. I think he barracks for the blues or tigers but i heard him interviewed not long before he retired as chief steward and he said one of the things he most looked forward to was being able to go to the footy