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Just noticed that in the still from the video above (with Roos talking to Howe and Watts) Vince, who is right in front of them, appears to be smiling. I wonder if he having a chuckle at the serve they are getting

I watched that through my binos at the ground. He gave Watts a fair spray it looked like, pointing this way and that and walked off shaking his head. As you say Watts looked as if he wanted the earth to swallow him up. Jetta was injured so he couldn't sub Watts off. He did the next best thing and started him on the bench and didn't put him back on for 7 minutes. Seriously Viney and JKK embarrassed Watts with the difference in intensity. I am positive Roos will drop him and will not pick him again until he radically changes his approach. I'm not sure he will be able to.

Spot on and i've said before comparing the two atm is an insult to trapper. From Wikepedia: In 2002 he finished equal fourth in Brownlow Medal voting, and in 2005 he won his first Melbourne Best and Fairest Award, the Keith 'Bluey' Truscott Medal, and he led the AFL in total kicks. Johnstone gradually developed into a midfielder possessing terrific vision and skill, who in 2006 for the second year in a row, led the team in the Brownlow Medal, with 11 votes. During the year he accumulated 469 disposals at 21 an outing, which included first for inside 50s (87) and third for rebounds from 50 (55), and was also 5th in tackles (77).

PSP please stop being a panic merchant

I hope this is the last post you are ever allowed to make on Demonland.

I wonder if Neeld might be tempted to tweet some encouraging words.

No backwards steps

To quote Greg Champion - You can get arrested for that - and so you should (stalking not peeing)

We get the point Lamashtu (insert joking emoticon here)

Alcohol not a factor apparently (he was breath tested). Weird though because he seemingly hit 3 cars head on totaling his car and the other 3. Police are continuing to investigate the collision but say it is too early to determine whether speed was a factor. Do they mean how fast the car was travelling?

Wasn't he pulled over in an unregistered Jeep recently (and from memory he doesn't have licensee). Same event or different?

you're under no such restriction

With Trenner, Hoges, Salem and the Toump building themselevs up, Garlo a full pre season, Gawn not gawn, Dawes ready to go round one, one plug and play gun recruit and an early draft pick we will have a great side round 1 next season. can't wait

As i said in a post yesterday: 'One more thing. I'm not being trite but comparing Watts to Trav is an insult to TJ. Yes they both look a little casual, yes both have sublime skills, yes trav wasn't overly physical but i rarely if ever questioned TJ's courage or commitment'

I have hesitated posting anything about JW as i wanted to cool down a bit. On Sunday night i thought he needed to be dropped. Now that i have calmed down a bit, i think he needs to be dropped. I have never seen JW through rose colored glasses and from the beginning have agreed he needs to improve his physicality. That said I have been a great supporter of Wattsy and have defended him many times on Demonland. I expected the penny to drop last year when moved to the half back flank and again thought Roosy might find the key to getting him going. Perhaps he still will but i have to admit the signs are very bad. Watts was hopeless against the Eagles and i posted then i thought he was on thin ice. I only listed to the GWS game on the radio so not really sure how he went in that game. But he was truly woeful on the weekend. Other posters have given enough of examples of why but the one that resonates is Dawes running straight past him in the center of the ground to try (unsuccessfully) and get to a man on the wing. This was Watt's lack of effort and letting his team mates down writ large for all to see. And i'm sure Dawes was making a point by gusting a gut for what was a lost cause (though not for Watts if he had gone hard and early) and i'm equally sure his anger in the post match interview with Burgs was at least in part related to Watts lack of effort throughout the game. Jeez the Leading Teams model must cause Watts nightmares as surely his team mates will let him know their thoughts. There was another example and one that i don't think has been noted thus far. On the half forward flank at the city end (where i was sitting) Ablett had the ball and was running towards goal at right angles to where Watts was (JW was about 15 metres away and on the move). Watts had the perfect opportunity to absolutely pole axe Ablett and force a turnover. He wouldn't have been at any risk of getting hurt as he would have completely blind sided him. Instead he ran to Ablett at half pace, made a weak attempt at tacking which Ablett brushed off and pumped the ball into the goal mouth. My son, who is 11 nailed it later in the day when on another occasion he failed to commit to a tackle he said 'he is so hesitant'. I hate bagging players at the footy and rarely do it. I couldn't help yelling in frustration at him a couple of times. One such time was just after half time when i implored him to change the direction of the match and win it for us, as nothing short of that would have lessened my frustration with him. To be fair he improved his intensity and laid an excellent tackle at the Punt road half back flank on the kid with the white mop. But really too little to late. With Roos having so publicly made clear what his non negotiable are (the basic footy stuff) he has left Roos with little option but to drop him and i expect that is what he will do. Surely if he doesn't it will because Roos has given him an ultimatum and one last chance to turn things around.If he is dropped it will be for quite a long time i reckon and you have to wonder if he has the bottle to force his way back. So depressing. One more thing. I'm not being trite but comparing Watts to Trav is an insult to TrJ. Yes they both look alittle casual, yes both have sublime skills, yes trav wasn't overly physical but i rarely if ever questioned TJ's courage or commitment

Don't feed the troll.

Given the post about us merging from 'household demon' i would be very wary of believing this info. Smacks of trolling to me.

Spot on Nasher. It is a huge bug bear of mine when people play that game. Of course they could of easily (and should have) been well up at half time - but they weren't. And who knows what might have happened if they got say 30 points up? The game might have opened up and who knows e might have been freed up to attack and piled on some quick goals. How many games have people seen where the better team were not as far up as they should have been and half time and then lost? But also it would be easy to say if we had taken our chances at the end of the 3rd and during the 4th we might have won. We didn't and we lost.

its on channel 7 I do believe

The other thing about Nev is the issue of development. Most would acknowledge development has been pizz poor during his time at the club. Roos, Stone et all will have improved that. I look at a player like Cheney. Despite a great work ethic he couldn't crack a regular senior game at the dees. Few would have been concerned when he left and no doubt he copped much the same bagging as Jets does. Goes to the Hawks, spends a few seasons developing in the 2's, learns the Hawk's system, develops and improves as a player and now has played well in every game this season with the reigning premiers. Go figure. The other lesson Cheney provides is that in modern footy players are given a role and good coaches play players in positions that suit their skill set and negate weakness (such as lack of pace). Roos will give Jetts a role and judge him on his ability to play. I will be intrigues as to where he plays him as that will give us an insight into how his lack of pace is covered.

If nev takes his chance and cements his spot it will be like having 2 new players

I've always liked Nev as a player and for what its worth i am reasonably confident he will become a regular best 22 (cue stupid comments about that showing us where we are at). On his elevation and selection, both are completely consistent with how Roos goes about things. He has consistently said form in the twos (as he always refers to Casey) is really important and will be rewarded. As Saty has pointed out he ha been in the best at Casey for most of this year and the second half of last season. You play well for long enough you will be selected. Full stop. As someone elese has said he could have gone with the Toump or Clisby but no at the first opportunity he has elevated Nev and put him straight in the side (and i'll bet he strart on the field).

Don't hang out with dees fan, they're annoying

he's uncanny is nostry. Always seems to know where the ball is going to be

I was joking - i should have used that stupid smiley face or some other similarly daft emoticon but i can't stand them. I also like consistency from posters, though i must say i also like it when posters change their views as a result of logical discussion