Demon17

Just announced on SEN that Clarkson has re-signed for 3 years to end of 2014.

I like your style FC. The main point is we are not an unnactractive option for a quality new coach. Imagine if we were still at the junction oval??

Westpac own them don't they. Could thus be true and make sense as neighbours?

I hope so HT. Can we remember that Ross Lyon was part of the Roos team that took swans to a flag. I don't believe some of the rubbish comments on here about 'saints footy'.. IMO 'saints footy' is about discipline and team ethos. They just don't score as much. He would be the best fit for us since the great John Northey who had a very good list play well above themselves week in week out. It was great to see Swooper and Rod Grinter at the 'G' last week too. A

I agree about looking to 2012, but in the interets of optimism, note the following: 1. The President is with us 2. New modern training facilites open 3. DEBT FREE 4. The great G. Lyon is football director 5. Jack Watts 6. Jack Trengove 7. Opportunity to now try a new EXPERIENCED senior AFL coach - first since 1981 8. The core playing group is young enough still to be moulded 9. Stefan Martin Have I missed anything???

I am certain it has, however Lyon was most professional clealy not specultaing through the media. The term he used on the show was 'posturing'. He doesnt do this and leaves this up to his management and believes they will handle it correctly. Much has been said about 'Saints' footy on this thread, but from my memeory of the great John Northey- - the demons were never beaten till the final bell, snatching many a last minute victory and they were as every bit excting as free flowing game styles we see today sometimes. The will not be a payout issue as he would not break a contract - simply agree to part company, hopefully accepted by the St.Kilda board. They can sue him for 'specific performance' , which simply means a legal manner to make him stay one more year, but in those circumstances would be unlikely to be invoked.

If you think cash flow in a football club regarding player remuneration is isolated your'e more naive than I thought by this comment.

If Clarkson is a true professional and Melbourne throws the kitchen sink at him, he will take it. Issues about lists quality etc. over a 5 year deal - which is a lifetime offer for someone of his age - will not/should not count in his decison. Pickering will be telling him the same. This issue is a professional one, not that emotional - thats the angle for us fans to take. The cash comes from the Board's resolve, quite correctly, not to pay Scully an outrageous salary which would destabilse the team. Whatever happens this move says to me the Board/G. Lyon and Co. are seriously on this case for next year. I'm excited that there's a firm hand on the tiller.

The worst thing the club could do is to appoint anyone on the strength of 6 games at the end of this season. Think Geischen, Primus, etc.. Be clever about this next move.

Well written QueenC . This post should be mandatory reading for everyone, inclduing AFL leadership, and then shut down this thread. If Tom goes he is going to oblivion, if he stays gerat for us. I cannot still believe this GWS team has any legs. Has Demetriou ever lived in Sydney let alone been to the West. This process is the greatest waste of money since I don't know what and the AFL is tantamount to negligent in the matter from a business persepctive. Fortunately I'm not a shareholder. Go Dees

Fully agree Hardtack, its just that the GWS model offers such a quantum of difference never seen before that we cannot envisage the impact on the team if he stays, and we expect him to forgoe an offer that would be ridiculous is too much to expect

I now think he needs to go. The financial model due to GWS puts this issue into new territory. Nothing like this has happened in prior years. If he stays legitimately, he will have sacrificed 100's of thousands of $'s per year. Absolutelt unrealistic to expect this from anyone. Thus if we match the deal, it will have a huge effect on the rest of a terrifc young playing group. They will eventually start looking at their own bank balances etc and compare - its human nature. In summary, we can't afford him so lets all move on . He should do the same and cut the crap about waiting etc. Screwed again by Andrew Demetriou not thining this through

You got it in one Dee-luded. Its a lock. The coach he 'feels' for as he said last night is Ratten. The AFL are aware of this move also already.

Already in discussions with Carlton

From a seriously good source today - Management discussions already underway with Carlton - hence the article last week about Malthouse not feeling to be a solid Magpie. This wasn't a cooincidence. Ratten was never in the frame for 2012.

Great advice. Also its best to pick up the dog droppings before mowing - especially in Winter.

I'm off to Norway/Sweden next year too!

Correct

Isn't the theory that the sub should be a serious runner who can outrun the tired opposition in the last 1/4 Thats' not LJ. Also he still neesd seriuous minding and will occupy a good Tiger defender if starting on the ground.

For the sake of accuracy its two finals appearances since 1982. I think in 1995? No wonder they're a bit anxious!

I like your thinking! Good plan, but is Beamer a stopper or give him a shot to take on Martin?

There is some truth in this when you remeber back to the John Northey days - if you can. That was the toughest Melbourne team I remember and the game was never over till the bell. We haven't been like that for some time. Examples-Round 22 Western Oval 1987, making the 88 GF after the 87 heartbreak, etc.

Frawley back in form and control surely! A goal from 55 out wasn't a bad effiort either

In yesterday's pre-game on SEN, Chris Connolly said Stefan martin was the smartest person wearing an AFL jumper at the minute, and included coaches in that. Is he also rocket scientist as well as our new gun on-baller/forward? Does anyone know? Connolly said he took some time to understand what was needed to succeed at AFL level, as opporsed to his other life interests.

I am expecting a big pump up of Jack on Footy Classifieds tonight by G. Lyon. - maybe with a little bit of early days yet but maybe its all working out after all.