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Grew up on the Peninsula, but have to say always had a set against the Frankston VFA side. Would prefer Mornington kicked on.

I'd take Pendlebury

As rare as hens' teeth.

So whether Clark played us or not is not the point, the club played that with discretion and can hold its head up, that should be the benchmark. And i believe it gets noticed favourably. Treating HL with respect does not hurt the club from a big picture POV.

Well Hyphen (brother) has the glasses and looks fit and has more hair, so i assume you mean him.

So went to my first training ever, was with my brother and my 16 month old kid, had an unexpected week back in Oz. I presumed there were some landers about but didn't have a clue to say hello too. We got there just as they were setting up. This is not exhaustive but the people we didn't see were Lumumba, Watts, Trengove, (Garland was doing the Tan), Pedersen, Gartlett and Lewis. Stayed till the end. Some additional comments about the running: Oliver looks like he has the most work of anyone to do fitness wise. It was a reminder that you are nude on the running track when the coaches are watching, there is no place to hide. He copped a very steady eyeball from Goodwin but was given some verbal encouragement at the end by everyone. Trac went out to hard early and was shot, when he finished last in the last lap he punched the ground and said 'I suck' he was not joking. There was love for him but you can tell he is driven, I do not expect him to be last for long, his thighs are amazing, he looks like he should be in a Marvel film. He wastes a huge amount of energy with his running style, being such a big unit I reckon he should cop some specialist coaching he will find speed from improved efficiency. Angus looks settled. Jones has the most perfect gait, he was torching Kent and he was running the wider track, is looking super fit. Kent is a solid unit, I really hope he can lift his defensive efforts this season, it is where I think he can really make a name for himself with his strength. Neal-Bullen is trying to be a small forward, (work in progress) his running is elite, he is not going to die wondering about his place, he is certainly trying to make the senior squad. Kennedy was 'clumsy' (this is by AFL standard) today, he seemed to have the yips when he was kicking for goal. He also is far from fit enough for the midfield at this stage. Melksham is a pretty ordinary kick, no better than McDonald, looks lean though. Hibbered was ok, the two category B rookies (names escape me Smith's son and the other one who were basketballers) both looked like they belong, could see them being players. Tom McDonald is a machine doing laps, fresh scar tissue on his shoulder on it is still angry from whenever it was done (I've never seen it without tape before). Coaches: Cross still looks like he should be playing and I'm sorry to say he is fitter than about 3/4 of the list. McCarthy was very verbal and chatting over the fence, unsolicited he offered that they were teaching them everything and made some quite negative comments about the Neeld era. He also mentioned that they are teaching the new coaches as well. I didn't get a read on Goodwin. I could see that he was taking the most interest in the contested drills. The culture was very positive in general I didn't see any sniping. Gawn has an amazing confidence and an even better desire to learn, no sign of hubris at all, very reassuring that his approach genuinely seems to be 'I will get better'. Stafford the ruck coach won a contest after McCarthy miskicked it, his words (first one in a hundered that I've won). Everything Gawn did he had a go, he was also doing some drills with Jetta who I rate highly but he was not going 100 % there were a few who seemed to be on various restrictions. Was a pleasure to see them using the footies, is funny I had always thought everyone would be a superstar in practise with the footy but you can see the decision makers from those that react and those that are natural kicks and those that are not mirror match play. Salem is the best kick we have, doesn't quite have the hoof of Bernie (and we are talking a shade of difference) but there is something about Salems hands, when he receives the ball there is this micro adjustment and the ball is perfectly centred in his hands (running or still) ready for the shortest ball drop of any we saw today. Has a very nice draw to his kick as well. While I was already a wrap for Salem, if he gets a tank he could be a more industrious Yze, didn't realise how much upside he had till i saw him kicking in person (my brother and I spent the afternoon trying to mimic his ball drop ) Hunt is bigger than I thought he would be. Hogan's stutter step isn't as bad in the flesh, he moves well but he really needs to go to a lab, he is still not kicking through the ball from a set shot, as soon as he does he will get another 15-20m distance. Still jet lagged, if I remember other stuff will write it up.

Bold, i love a bet so don't go near tables or tracks of my own volition, because i like it far too much. Power to you

Generally agree, but wanted to mention there was a time when the Saints were GWS like, their top 12 players were all jets, coaches falling over themselves to take the Ferrari of a team out for a spin, and they made a GF, but didn't salute. There is nothing ordained about GWS getting a flag, it will go to the team that does the most work, not the most skilled. GWS will be fierce opposition, but not beyond us. (that said it will feel a bit like taking on George Foreman).

Don't care if it's true, i want to believe

His name does not start with a J, am suspicuous, good country footy area didn't Tingay and Rigoni hail from those parts?

Thank you, brave heart, good bloke.

Good luck and thank you- one day I hope to hear what it was that got your cards marked? I thought you had adjusted to Roos, and felt we were undersized this year down back without you. Good that you get another shot.

TBH i really wanted to shaft Essendon. Tjat is the only thing i ront like about the deal 29 is fair they just dont deserve it

Had to go back and watch JL again (also trying to remember the episode where he gives MFC props. Robbo invited him back to 360 and I think with this trade its almost assured. The only reason not to is balance, too much MFC after Roos, from someone else's POV (not mine of course). AFL 360 (26 Min) onward from Aug 9, 2016

This is a big tick for Goodwin as well (Do we buy a case of something for our recruiting department? I think they have kicked this one over the wheat silo) Could not be more stoked or surprised - and if Lewis comes to the MFC then anyone can, we are a #destinationclub.

Hating Hawthorn is fine, but is very silly not to give credit where it is due, they have been amazing with list management and performance over a long period, coping with Roughead going down etc.They were less than 1% off a 4th premiership and that was not the fault of a Lewis or Mitchell. And I think we can back our FD - Cross/Vince etc have all been excellent value.

The real question for me is, does he make a good caffe latte?

So I was wrong, when the line up for the season was announced I was thinking the one show I didn't mind 'about' footy would be lost in a giggle for a suspended Essendon player. Mark Robinson - while still a nong in many respects, has become much more considered with his questions (maybe better script writers - his print hasn't improved that much) and I find his love of football believable. I think the research behind the scenes is strong and been well impressed with some of the research. I think the Demons have been given a fair crack. People need to get off Gils back I reckon he's thinking about the game long term. I also think the music editor does a good job fwiw.

I don't know who said it, but no 9ne is quicker than a well placed, flat drop punt. Skills please.

Awesome game by the dogs, what a team effort, smothers spoils, massive tackles, bold running play, not spitting the dummy at the stupid umps. Am going to pray for a miracle for Jong. Will go back to disliking the dogs next year, for now woof woof.

6 Gawn 5 Jetta 4 Tyson 3 Hunt 2 Tmac 1 Frost for the shepard chase alone, didnt think i was watching melbourne. Frost eill end up being greater than Tmac

Him fit in a heart beat, the only blokes I wouldn't trade would be viney/gawn/petracca

I actually think he's done, which is worth nothing as it's not a medical opinion, but to me he is a race horse with a busted leg. Its almost like he is too strong and will never heal well enough to bare all the force he puts on the bone when he plays.

How good has Jack W been since his contract extension.

a slightly tongue in cheek comment, however I do believe if pleading for common sense on this site worked there would not be a need for a filter option. More seriously, we are a destination club now, and I thank PJ for that and the recruiting team, year after year where they have been proved correct, our 2014/15 drafts demonstrating real insight, especially the use of the points system or whatever it is called.