Longsufferingnomore

The music is a shocker - more like a funeral but it was Jack's demeanour that I was impressed with.

PMan, my Dad is now in Palliative care but still does not miss a game on the TV and still loves to talk about the current players. He is the reason that I love this Club so much. I remember growing up that if he only had a few rides (he was a jockey) he would dash back to the MCG to watch the last half or a quarter. He still gets me to bring back the Footy Record for him to read. To win on Saturday night would be great for him, for me, for all of us and for the Club. I don't know how many more matches he will be here to watch.

I suggest everyone listen to Jack's initerview on the MFC site. Here is a young man who is our future. This gives me hope.

Loved that. Gave me goosebumps. I also liked the idea of holding up the scarf over their heads. Could we do that as they run out on Saturday night. I want to tell them despite last Sunday they still have our support.

Yes I feel the same. Why is it that there seems a genuine warmth about Craig but a coldness and distance with Neeld.

That will go well.

HG what has happened since Darwin when you were waxing lyrical about the players and FD and how wonderful it all was up there. Something has happened and it cant just be Sunday's performance.

HG I wonder why you had to put that little titbit in about Dom Barry.

Well I'm glad the Club saw that coming. I must ring them for the lotto numbers this week.

Webber, I agree blame has to be also put back on the Coach and his assistants. My main question is we were never going to win the game with the structure/game plan that Neeld has developed. Where was Plan B. Malthouse went to Plan B and nearly won the game. Why were there no changes made in the last quarter. Put Frawley at CHF or Jack Watts in the forward line. Making changes is no admission of being wrong. In my eyes making changes is a sign that someone can be flexible. Neeld seems to be inflexible. Anyway whats the worse thing that could happen - we could just get charged with tanking - again! The team played woefully - that is the players and the FD. They have to work out why is that they can carry out the game plan at Gosch's but they cant when there is an opposition. Lack of confidence, Neeld is uninspiring - well JV and Matt Jones and Jimmy Toumpas seemed inspired. Gillies and Pederson to some extent were just outplayed - duds and should never have been recruited. Rhodan and Byrnes from what I could see tried their hardest. But where was the run and carry that gives your fellow team mate confidence that there will be someone else with you. Where were the leads - just standing flat footed. To me they were standing out there with a whole of lot of football plan in their brains saying now I have to stand her or I have to go there - oh thats not to plan what do I do now. Any semblance of individuality and flair has been coached out of them with the exception of Blease because he is expected within the "Plan" to run and carry. I dont think it is the Plan as such but the way it is being coached, its inflexibility, the lack of player confidence to carry out the Plan when it gets tough. Only winning can get back that confidence. Jack Grimes can say that they all move on quickly but in their subconscious there must be something telling them that they just cant do this. It is now up to the Club including Don and Cam to sort out with the FD why the players cannot implement the Plan and why there does not seem to be Plan B.

I cant believe all of this. Now is not the time to be calling for heads to roll. If the media dont do it for us we may start something that no one really wants and end up with no club to support. Is that what you all really want. I doubt it. I still want to be able to watch my Club for a long time to come. The usual suspects are again churning up the masses. We saw it during the tanking affair and we all knew that whoever was doing the stirring had not finished and would take any opportunity to keep stirring that same pot. Dont give them fodder which is what is happening now. A lot of people here it would seem by the comments/rants would prefer to see the Club go under than wait for clear air and then make productive comments. Just think what Caro will come up with after reading some of the posts here. Ah yes Melbourne supporters call for Schwab's dismissal. Is that what we need at the moment. Some of the comments here are outrageous and are only made to keep adding fuel to the fire. We all used to poke fun at Richmond as to how often they turned their coaches over. It is game 1. FFS give the FD and players a little bit of time to sort this out. They would not have seen it coming. How could they. They were pumped prior to the game. They had a great pre-season etc etc. They all said that they had never been so fit (an indictment in itself on Bailey) so just maybe they thought it would just happen. It didn't. So I am as upset as anyone and I was one that booed. But I didnt see Don drop a mark or Cam shirk a mark. Unfortunately the players and the FD let everybody down including themselves. They are the ones we were booing.They are the ones with the FD that will be doing the soul searching as to why. I hope they do bounce back next week. I wont take it as a slap in the face. I will be happy for them and the Club. Did anyone take our win against Essendon as a slap in the face after losing so many games. No, we revelled in the players obvious joy. We are all in pain, supporters, players and the Club. We are in this together like it or not. Don't divide this Club because that is what calling for McLardy and Schwab to stand down now could end up doing.

What did Malthouse say about the Club. I very much doubt Malthouse would ever comment on another Club given what he went through at the Filth. But please enlighten us.

Soidee care to confirm your previous member names. Seems we have heard these tirades before.

Biffo I think you will find there may be a mass exodus from the offices without you even having to ask them to leave.

Grimes also gave an emotional speech. From what he said after the game other players also got up. Dont for one minute think that the players dont give a rats. I think it is great that JV had the guts to get up and not be stifled by the thought of being a newbie. But this emotional turmoil must be made into a positive. I firmly believe that the team if allowed will play a different brand of football next week. Up to you Neeld and Assistants to let them play without being restricted by zones etc. My message to the players is - Play man on man even it means you sacrifice your game for the Club. Nate if you are being tagged out of the game tag the tagger or tag another opposition player and tag him out of the game. Do the unexpected. Play with flair, take the game and other opposition players on without fear of retribution from the Coach and his staff. Kick it up the bloody centre for a change. Let loose the old Tappy and let Dunne roost it. Run until you can't run anymore. Protect the player going for the ball. Fear nothing and we will support you.

Shaw like all of us do not really know what the AFL had on the Club. The threat to take the AFL to court was real. He might be right about CFC but we are not in their shoes. I always take critiques from certain ex players from other Clubs with a grain of salt because they have their own agendas. To me Ox's declarations yesterday mean more because he loves the Club and he has no alternative agendas.

There might be a spot open for old Tom.

And with good reason.

Do you consider Gillies, Pedersen depth players because if you do there is no hope. I consider them experienced in the number of games they have played not as in experienced MFC players. Today they showed nothing. Today they were duds.

That is my worry as well. The media will smell blood. We thought we had it bad last year. There will be no balance.

What inexperience - Viney and Toumpas. Well from my seat Viney, inexperienced but Demons BOG and Toumpas inexperienced but certainly at least put in. The other newcomers were all experienced players but unfortunately some were/are duds.

And I bet Rooooosy and those two "MFC supporters" bring up the "tanking" issue as reason why we are so bad.

I would hold fire on Rodan and Byrnes, Pederson a filler-in only but Gillies should never be allowed to play again - absolutely useless no wonder he couldnt get a game at Geelong.

I think Rohan and Neeldy need to have a bit of a talk

I think the booing today sent a clear message to the Club. I have never heard my team being booed off the ground before. We have always politely clapped them off even after some of the debacles last year. Not anymore. By the looks of the players faces as they went down the race and by the reactions of some of the players in the rooms, they have got the message. We can't take anymore.