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Where haven't I given credit? I was simply correcting the record. He said he would top in $3m. It came with strings attached and he spat the dummy and would not put in his final payment.

We would have been better without the cash and the huge disruption he caused to our club.

No it wasn't it was supposed to be $3m but he only tipped in $2.75m

intensity. he don't got it

Joe has an appalling business reputation for a good reason. Google any of his companies to fnd out why. Spent millions of other peoples money searching for diamonds because his Rabbi in New York told him where to look. Seriously? Charlatan of the highest order Complete disaster for the MFC. Squealed to the AFL about salary cap breaches hoping for a reduced or zero penalty, The AFL slapped us with fines and draft penalties as well as players receiving tax audits. Did it off his own bat without discussing it at board level. People who think Joe was good for the MFC should learn more about what he did and what he was like.

Let it go, Jurrah was a disaster. We could have had Rockliff......

Oh oh, Jesse's not smiling, Cue demented 'he's leaving for Freo' commentary

Steady on. We were 18th in the midfield this year. That would be a leap of ridiculous proportions.

That goal against Geelong when he ran from the wing and was involved in a chain of possessions and finished off with a goal was particularly encouraging. I saw a guy with a real sense of where to run and who knew what to do when he got it.

Pretty realistic you would have to think. Except for Tommy Mac who should be in the category that he has improved and has more to go. Fix his disposal and he will be elite, We have brought in a lot of players that have simply failed to make the grade regardless of whether we think it is culture or talent. The CData team are looking purely at stats and effectiveness so guys like Dunn, Lumumba, Dawes, Garland don't really cut it. We just have to find players that will step up whether it is VDB, Stretch ANB etc Quite sobering really

What a novel idea! Wait until all of the facts are investigated/known before jumping to a conclusion.

And he did that in around 8 minutes.....

There you go again. Who said martin was drunk? You don't explicitly say he was drunk but you make a statement and then make a general statement which tries to inference the situation that you do not not for sure IS the situation. best you stop that really.

And here is the problem. With respect i think you are the one making assumptions about so much of this. This stuff then gets added to and before you know it the real story gets lost. We perhaps should wait for the full story to come out (although the club and the AFL seem to be taking their sweet time about it). You say there is no evidence the woman was 'smug'. In an earlier post by Song he details what he was told by the owners of the restaurant. Maybe your statement isn't right. I have seen on numerous occasions people go up to high profile people and impose on them unreasonably. Not saying its the case here but it happens a lot. You also go on to say that the restaurant had served too many drinks to martin. You have no idea what they served him. He apparently had been at Stereosonic all day and there is a lot of stuff on offer there. You also don't know what his mate did or did not do. It's easy to be holier than thou and on the face of it it is an appalling act regardless of any of those circumstances. But perhaps we should wait to hear both sides of the 'story'.

There's an awful lot of hyperbole on this thread about violence towards women. No-one doubts its an issue. I was simply reframing the statistics quoted here with some fact.

If you are talking disproportionate you are correct. 64% of all homicide victims are male. Just sayin...

He actually is a bit of a forgotten player for us. As good as a new recruit but built and ready to go...

Oh OK you have joined the dots...no probs just checking you weren't quoting facts.

Really? Any facts to back this up?

My fiddy makes it $766......... C'mon guys

The green guy?? Yeah.

Wow, just wow.

It wasn't Vlad was it? I thought it was Barry P

Huge job guys. Well done and a very big thanks for your dedication and efforts.

Don't panic. Its 1 December. He may be on a gym programme, or a running remediation programme, or a nutrition programme. Relax....