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Everything posted by Fat Tony
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We did pull forward our draft pick from the future to take Laurie, so that needs to be also considered.
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I think the Bombers will only play one ruck. They are coming off their best win for years and won't drop Nate Caddy, who looks to play a bit like a young Charlie Curnow, or Harry Jones who is also showing a lot. Peter Wright played in the second ruck role for them and he will still give them an edge in the clearances against us.
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The point you make is right. The ability to go through the stoppage at speed and with clean hands means you don't need to be a big bull in the centre square. This is especially now the case with the big ruck circle. Butters is another good example of a very good centre clearance player who is small. I like McVee, but I think Nick Daicos is at least one level above and he is a fair bit quicker and stronger. The other thing to note is how well Darcy Cameron is going in the centre bounces at directing his taps and the Pies are setting up for Daicos to run through the centre stoppage at speed. We have been trying to do this sometimes with Kossie, but you can only really afford to have one attacking player like this in the centre clearance. A great thing about Kossie in this role is that he is dual sided. I actually think Windsor is actually more likely to be an inside midfielder for us than McVee in time because he has elite pace off the mark and he has shown exceptional handball/decision making in tight.
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Melksham looks like he got off without any penalty.
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I am not sold on AMW and I think that some of the comments on here are a bit over the top. I like that he plays with AFL intensity but needs to be cleaner and more precise with his disposal and keep his feet on the ground balls. Some of his decision making shows his inexperience as well, but obviously that could improve with more games. I prefer what Howes offers at this stage because he is a better kick and better interceptor. I also think he plays to the defensive system better.
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McVee is too light and lacks the power to play in the centre bounces IMO.
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We played a more expansive game yesterday than against the Lions, where our forwards marked down the line. Petty needs to fix his goal kicking 4.13 from 21 shots is a terrible return. His poor kicking cost us against Brisbane at the GABBA and against Carlton.
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Our connection between the midfield and forward line was much improved and was the key to our big win. We also played with a great balance of down the line and switching. Our centre bounces were hopeless again, losing 8-18. Viney’s delivery inside 50 was poor and, on a slow play, it would be better if he lays it off and lets someone else take the money kick. Oliver was really pants in the centre clearances. He could not hold his tackles and gave dinky handballs which hit the deck. He is liability this year and I would be starting him outside the centre bounce. Gawn started well, hitting the ball forward, but lost influence. Lever had a dog day as well, missing a number of easy high balls which he would usually kill. Rivers has been a revelation for us. Kossie is in fantastic form. Chandler played well also. JVR was great but dropped two chest marks and missed two easy set shots. Good games by Winsor and Langdon on the wings. TMac was fantastic. May had a good game. Tholstrup had a very good game and is clearly a good pick. He does everything well without being outstanding at any aspect of the game. Kicking, marking, endurance, speed and tackling are all AFL standard. I think he is left handed, which is probably an advantage for a right footer. Melksham returned back to 2023 form immediately. He makes the other players in our forward half better and his kicking is so powerful on both sides. Woewodin played with good intensity when he came on. AMW looks a liability out there. I like his intensity and while he is trying to take the safe option, he made quite a few skill errors. I think we look better with Howes in the role. Bowey and Salem both played good games. It will be interesting how we get Petty back into the side. Disco is playing well enough to keep his spot. I like the balance of the side yesterday with two talls (JVR and Disco) and two hybrid forwards (Melk and Fritsch).
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I would prefer to prioritise winning every game. If the young players aren’t going better than Shiel, they can develop in the VFL.
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If he was 28 he would cost $800k and a late first round pick. At 31 he will cost only $275k and no pick. He is a better option than Laurie. Getting cheap veterans has been one of the Cats keys to staying at the top for the last decade.
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I thought he panicked with the ball under pressure and was not clean enough. He also should have blocked Rainer prior to taking that specky. I know every player makes mistakes. I just view him as being too vanilla to play half back. Ideally it requires elite pace and long, accurate kicking and he has neither of those traits.
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He was fantastic against Carlton as the sub. That needs to be his baseline. I don't really like him at half back and looks much better as a high half forward. He needs to be clean and take the first option and compete better in one on ones.
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I think Woewodin will be lucky to hold his spot. He needs to go harder and be cleaner if he is going to make it. Tomlinson may only hold his spot if TMac goes forward. (Champion Data had TMac's game last week as exceptional but I doubt we really want a backline with all of Lever, Tomlinson, May and TMac.) Melksham could be the sub.
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I expect the points system will also be fixed so that the value of late picks is reduced.
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The mooted changes are that all NGA players would be able to be taken by their respective club regardless of where they are drafted. This would mean that players like Mac Andrew (who was drafted inside the top 40) would be able to be matched. We could benefit IF AFL can take hold in the African communities in Dandenong because our game is clearly suited to some of the athletic traits of Africans. (The Sudanese especially seem to have the speed, height and endurance.) There is nine South Sudanese players on NBL rosters, which is incredible given the South Sudanese population in Australia is around 13,000. South Sudan made the Olympics, so they are pretty good.
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Sure, but Blakey was in the Swans academy, which has different rules. The NGA academies should be for players who have not played junior football to under 15s or year 9. The idea of the NGAs should be to attract new players to the game. Basing it off non-Australian backgrounds makes no sense given 48% of the population has at least one parent born overseas. It completely screws the draft and the number of kids in each club's zone is not equal. That all said, MFC have been given Casey and Dandenong as our NGA zones. Given the young African population in Dandenong and the growth in Casey, there is a chance to get the system to work in our favour to some extent.
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Is Waterman out of contract at the end of this year or next?
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We should be loud in our protest against the academy systems unless (our zone is the same size as Sydney's). There is a reason they never miss the finals. And indigenous Australians should not be in the academy systems. They are not a group which is under represented in the AFL on a percentage of population basis. Players like Jamarra Ugle-Hagan started playing Australian rules before the academies existed.
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I don’t think we’ve switched in game to a possession game. I think Goodwin has been reluctant to change style during the game.
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The contested, long kicking game is more taxing than the kick/mark possession game plan. We should play the contested brand in the first half, when the heat is in the game, and then switch to a more possession game in the second half when the game opens up.
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The AFL needs to reduce the number of rules that are open to umpire interpretation. Holding the ball will aways be a judgement call and the rules can't easily be changed to fix it. I think the recent quick whistle to ball it up has been a good change. Deliberate out of bounds is the worst rule in the game and always seems to favour the team with the most fans at the game. The rule should be changed to be that if it is a non-accidental kick and it goes over the line, it should be an automatic free against. A handball out on the full should be an automatic free against. It can still be a deliberate out of bounds free kick if it is intentionally tapped, handballed on the ground or ran over the line. (This is the interpretation part.) It should not be a free if the ball accidently hits your foot and goes out (even on the full). For touched or rushed behinds, the rule should be that it is a point and the play re-starts with a ball up at the top of the goal square rather than a kick in. This creates some incentive to keep the ball in play but takes the grey area out of it. The previous push in the back interpretation, being no hands allowed in the back, was a good one because it was black and white. I would like to see a lot more holding free kicks paid, like they do in the NFL. I would also like to see a strict taunting rule in force. The worst part about the game is when a player kicks a goal and goes at the defender and/or if they miss and the defender goes at the attacker.
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We were lucky to be that close. The Lions missed some easy chances as well.
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Good effort and our tactics were good. We played a more aggressive press in defence and kicked long to contests. That said, we should look to kick short and mark more in the second half as the game opens up.
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We picked up Windsor, JVR and Tholstrup and have our next two first round picks in hand. I think we’ve drafted well enough to come out even.
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Here is a summary for those who can’t get through the firewall: Melbourne has been "dudded" by AFL rule changes twice in recent years. First, the Next Generation Academy (NGA) rules were changed in 2020, preventing Melbourne from drafting Mac Andrew in 2021. The club had developed Andrew from age 13, but Gold Coast drafted him at No.5. It was Melbourne who moulded him into an AFL prospect, but the league pulled the rug from underneath the Demons, 12 months out from when they expected to draft him. Secondly, Melbourne missed out on drafting Harley Reid in 2023 due to limitations on trading future draft picks. The Demons made a strong offer for West Coast's No.1 pick: They put forward the most compelling offer – it trumped North Melbourne's best pitch – with picks 6, 11, 42 and this year's first-rounder (currently No.10) – on the table. However, they couldn't offer more due to rules at the time. The AFL is now set to allow trading of two years of future picks, which could have changed the outcome if implemented earlier. Melbourne recruiter Jason Taylor highly rated Reid: "If you look over the journey, players like Harley Reid are game changers," Taylor said. "We just felt that he's a really high-end talent, we love his character, the way he goes about his football." The article suggests Melbourne "definitely missed out on Andrew by one year and probably missed out n Reid by one year. Additionally, the AFL is expected to reform the bidding system for father-son and academy prospects: No longer will clubs be allowed to match bids with a pile of garbage picks. The new system may require clubs to use high-value picks to match bids for top talents, potentially including future first-round picks. Lastly, the article mentions potential changes to Melbourne's draft prospects, including father-son Kalani White, who might choose Gold Coast over Melbourne.