Everything posted by Fat Tony
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Trade Targets
Is Waterman out of contract at the end of this year or next?
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Next AFL Shafting
We should be loud in our protest against the academy systems unless (our zone is the same size as Sydney's). There is a reason they never miss the finals. And indigenous Australians should not be in the academy systems. They are not a group which is under represented in the AFL on a percentage of population basis. Players like Jamarra Ugle-Hagan started playing Australian rules before the academies existed.
- Are we fit enough?
- Are we fit enough?
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Standard of Umpiring
The AFL needs to reduce the number of rules that are open to umpire interpretation. Holding the ball will aways be a judgement call and the rules can't easily be changed to fix it. I think the recent quick whistle to ball it up has been a good change. Deliberate out of bounds is the worst rule in the game and always seems to favour the team with the most fans at the game. The rule should be changed to be that if it is a non-accidental kick and it goes over the line, it should be an automatic free against. A handball out on the full should be an automatic free against. It can still be a deliberate out of bounds free kick if it is intentionally tapped, handballed on the ground or ran over the line. (This is the interpretation part.) It should not be a free if the ball accidently hits your foot and goes out (even on the full). For touched or rushed behinds, the rule should be that it is a point and the play re-starts with a ball up at the top of the goal square rather than a kick in. This creates some incentive to keep the ball in play but takes the grey area out of it. The previous push in the back interpretation, being no hands allowed in the back, was a good one because it was black and white. I would like to see a lot more holding free kicks paid, like they do in the NFL. I would also like to see a strict taunting rule in force. The worst part about the game is when a player kicks a goal and goes at the defender and/or if they miss and the defender goes at the attacker.
- POSTGAME: Rd 16 vs Brisbane
- POSTGAME: Rd 16 vs Brisbane
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Dudded by the AFL
We picked up Windsor, JVR and Tholstrup and have our next two first round picks in hand. I think we’ve drafted well enough to come out even.
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Dudded by the AFL
Here is a summary for those who can’t get through the firewall: Melbourne has been "dudded" by AFL rule changes twice in recent years. First, the Next Generation Academy (NGA) rules were changed in 2020, preventing Melbourne from drafting Mac Andrew in 2021. The club had developed Andrew from age 13, but Gold Coast drafted him at No.5. It was Melbourne who moulded him into an AFL prospect, but the league pulled the rug from underneath the Demons, 12 months out from when they expected to draft him. Secondly, Melbourne missed out on drafting Harley Reid in 2023 due to limitations on trading future draft picks. The Demons made a strong offer for West Coast's No.1 pick: They put forward the most compelling offer – it trumped North Melbourne's best pitch – with picks 6, 11, 42 and this year's first-rounder (currently No.10) – on the table. However, they couldn't offer more due to rules at the time. The AFL is now set to allow trading of two years of future picks, which could have changed the outcome if implemented earlier. Melbourne recruiter Jason Taylor highly rated Reid: "If you look over the journey, players like Harley Reid are game changers," Taylor said. "We just felt that he's a really high-end talent, we love his character, the way he goes about his football." The article suggests Melbourne "definitely missed out on Andrew by one year and probably missed out n Reid by one year. Additionally, the AFL is expected to reform the bidding system for father-son and academy prospects: No longer will clubs be allowed to match bids with a pile of garbage picks. The new system may require clubs to use high-value picks to match bids for top talents, potentially including future first-round picks. Lastly, the article mentions potential changes to Melbourne's draft prospects, including father-son Kalani White, who might choose Gold Coast over Melbourne.
- PREGAME: Rd 16 vs Brisbane
- PREGAME: Rd 16 vs Brisbane
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Andy Moniz-Wakefield to Debut
I am a fan of AMW, as he plays in the VFL with AFL level intensity and pace. The big question mark on his game is his disposal and decision making, which is still developing. It will be interesting to see who he replaces in the side given one of Howes, Bowey or Salem looks most likely to be omitted as a result (or K Brown gets dropped).
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Please get off Clarry's back. Show some respect!
At the moment, without elite speed, Oliver is an average midfielder.
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Please get off Clarry's back. Show some respect!
I’m not convinced he will ever get back to what he was. The speed of the game has increased and I fear this year might be a glimpse into what we’ll get over the next six years. I see Oliver as an inside midfielder only due to his average kicking. And without elite speed, he is an average midfielder on big money. I can’t see us winning a flag without elite mids.
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Please get off Clarry's back. Show some respect!
Oliver is not a good enough kick to play half back and he is not a great defender. And he has never shown himself to be a great forward. We need Oliver to win the hard ball in the midfield this season, because our midfield already lacks depth and he does not use the ball well enough to play in periphery positions.
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CASEY: RD 13 vs North Melbourne VFL
They can only put 5 on the bench!
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Please get off Clarry's back. Show some respect!
All the club's decisions should be made with the aim to maximise the number of premierships we win in perpetuity. Everyone agrees that Clarrie has been a superstar, but we need to make decisions going forward. Can Oliver, with his mental health issues and about to turn 27, come back to be worth the six year $1m+ contract? And will he be a good example to our younger players? Personally, I think it is a bigger risk to keep him than to trade him if we can get another club to pay his salary.
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CASEY: RD 13 vs North Melbourne VFL
The stats sheet is diabolical reading. How can AFL listed players hardly touch the ball against a C-grade VFL side?
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Trade Targets
I would look at Jack Silvagni. I know he is coming off a knee injury but I like his versatility as a forward, midfielder and second ruck.
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Trade Targets
We will be lucky to get one second round pick and get off his whole contract.
- PREGAME: Rd 16 vs Brisbane
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PREGAME: Rd 15 vs North Melbourne
Woewodin, Tholstrop and McAdam (sub) in for Laurie, Billings and Petracca. McAdam can also play VFL on Sunday if he does not get enough minutes. Rivers into the midfield. Langdon on the wing. Turner and Woewod in in defence. TMac and Tholstrop forward. Bowey, May, Howes Salem, Turner, McVee Langdon, Oliver, Windsor Picket, Petty, Neal-Bullen Fritsch, van Rooyen, Chandler Gawn, Rivers, Viney Woewodin, TMac, Tholstrup, Sparrow McAdam
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The midfield numbers behind staggering drop-off
Your point stands, but... Pickett has improved. I think you are harsh on Fritsch, Langdon and McVee, who are about the same. Salem is also about the same and has not been good since 2021. (Max is having a better year but I think the 'improvement' is due to being a solo ruck.) And Viney is actually rating more this year statistically (although I struggle to believe it). Sparrow has had much fewer centre bounce attendances but has been ordinary regardless.
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The midfield numbers behind staggering drop-off
A key argument made by those defending the performance of the midfield has been that the scores from clearances have been net positive. But a lot of that is partly luck (good goal kicking and/or good forward play in the stoppages). The raw clearance number and centre clearance numbers are a key part of our game we need to turnaround. Plus, we are defending way too deep when the opposition has the ball inside our 50. We need to squeeze up and take the risk of the ball getting out the back.
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Trade Targets
Luke Parker would be a good get. He was the 61st ranked player in the AFL in 2023 on Wheelo Ratings. He is not in the midfield this year only due to Heeney taking his role (and injury/suspension). Dylan Shiel is another veteran who we could us for a year or two and would cost little in draft picks or salary. Ash Johnson could use a change of scenery and has AFL level talent. I don't think he is the answer to our forward woes but he could be part of the solution. I am not against Rory Lobb if the Dogs contribute to his salary. He fills the back up ruck role better than what we currently have and we are in deep trouble if Max gets injured.