buck_nekkid

With a big Maxx jammed down the front....

Can you really see any draftees being best 22? I would expect them to go into ‘Fringe’ straight away.

Sounds like a completely different start to the pre-season than last year, when at this time at least half of the first 22 were recovering from various surgeries. If the training plans are already underway and the guys are doing this plus ‘extra bike sessions’ etc, we should start pre-season in such a better spot than last year. Jack taking some youngsters North to train in more humid/hot conditions to increase the load is a very clear demonstration of leadership. I imagine the pressure is on for him to keep the captaincy, with Max snapping at his heels for either a share or the full mantle. Good to see him stepping up and leading.

We traded our fastest speedster - that would matter if we were a relay team. We are a football team, we didnt trade away our best footballers.

I like Melksham, but think others have to go past him. He may be best 22, but maybe just (if J Smith doesn’t take his spot?) i can’t see our draftees getting too much time as best 22, perhaps they can work themselves into form agree re Hunt perhaps being ‘Fringe’. If we look at 2018 form, 2019 form, or average of both we end up with wildly different predictions about who ends up where.

This may be why we didnt chase Jenkins? If we really think he is a good forward ruck prospect and available at 8, then best available at 3, him at 8, would be a great reason why we moved up this year.

Maybe we bid on him with 8? Given the talent thereabouts, we get exactly who we want with essentially the first live pick of the draft, then see what plays out. We ca take our time now to get that first pick right, then have a plan for what emerges at 8. After that, we can go to the pub.

So we have Werridee’s ‘best 22’ for 2020, however it is interesting to think about who is ‘depth’ and who are ‘fringe 22’ Here are some of my thoughts Fringe (can get a gig): Melksham Jones (where do we fit him into the 22?) Preuss (?) Vandenberg Sparrow Dunkley OMac .... and here is where it starts to get interesting Depth (gotta be a lot of development or injuries for them to get a run) Jordon Nietschke Chandler Bedford Bradtke Spargo (a big call) ANB (teacher’s pet??) If we can keep a fit team on the paddock, then these guys can all enjoy extended (development) time at Casey. So who would be in each of your lists??

Romance. FS, FFS. Not sure he cost us much in terms of pick though? He was apparently a great and professional clubman, and ‘nearly’ made it into a role player, just never quite got over the line.

I suppose that both of these players had the opportunity to ‘own’ a wing, or even be a hff. Unfortunately, looking at the list, they are now both a long way back. If we work on the principle that 80% of our players should be fit (rather than 50%) then these guys would simply not get a look in to the AFL squad with the addition of two specific wingers and we have the biggest bunch of half forward flankers going around. Thanks for your service, gentlemen, and good luck with what comes your way.

We never had Darwin as a zone, it was always seen as too good at developing players to be a zone...except as a sweet gift for the Gold Coast Banana Splits. Our Zone is Alice Springs, I think. Home zone of Liam Jurrah. Can’t think of another player developed out of there???

TMac, Weid, j Smith, Hannan and Fritsch. Add Trac, and a resting mid. That should be the bulk of it, with Langdon and Tomlinson sweeping forward for a few. You have to think that when fit and in form, these guys can get amongst it.

Looking at the top 10, with the knowledge the top 2 are gone, we really can’t too badly from this selection. 3 and 8 should do us nicely, thank you!

This is a strange one. If I was Carlton, I would bank the 700K for use on keeping Cripps, Kurnows Mackay etc. He really is worth a second rounder, and to pay him like a serious first rounder is entirely overs. The Suns playing hard ball to ‘earn respect’ is just childish posturing by the weakiings on the playground. Would you take Langdon or Martin? Would you take Papley or Martin? Looks for the most part like a JKH upgrade, some nice moments but not the superstar he promised to be. He is not worth a round 1 pick. I would rather rookie Mr Achillies.

I guess it will be more like pick 70. Most other clubs will be passing by then. I suspect it will be a Dunkley or Lockhart upgrade to close out our deal. We can then take DFA’s (Bennell, Buzza?) and Rookies as we move forward.

I gave us an A our core deficits were addressed. If we are healthy, or nearly healthy, we have most other needs covered. losing Frost is no biggie. Shame we didn’t land Elliott, but that was a long shot. moving to first round (top 10) x2 in this year’s draft instead of having a lower, compromised pick next year is a massive plus. holding 97 allows one rookie upgrade, probably Dunkley. A+ would have been if we pulled off a heist, and snuck a treasure. We ended up better than we were, and in a great position for the draft. Mahoney also best communicator, and we got stuff done with no fuss, and without being arschlochs in the process. That has to be an ‘A’ rating.

No enough. 3 for 6, 36ish and about 25 ( after academy picks) next year? Nope

I suppose it depends who they want and if they think they will be there. I agree that 3 and 8 will be juicy, and I would be very happy with that. I think that there will be more of a mad dash at the end, and we could improve even further.

More to go yet. We can still trade 3 out for 2 top 15 picks plus something next year.

we need to stay away for King. The overblown price and expectations would make this very unattractive. St Kilda may want to do it for the ‘romance’ of it, and The Bombers need a forward tall. We have seen Weid’s path - it takes big guys a while to develop to top level. Would think the money is better spent elsewhere.

Potentially compromised draft.... Each club gets their pick in order (with GCS getting extra). I can see clubs wanting to get early picks, and then points in later picks that they can use. It would be great if the top 1-5 are all selected, all hell will break loose. It will be interesting if they will select the ‘best available, or their academy picks. I suppose clubs will have to make some tough decisions, and you may see players nominated and bids not matched. Might actually make the whole thing more interesting!

4 places in the second round? On the success rate of second round picks, our chances of landing a good player dropped from about 40% to about...40%. Draft picks are a mugs currency

Very insightful analysis, and some early calls on the list that have played out. Worth a listen.

Are the Pies looking to get a late pick by not delisting? Seems if we wanted him, we could grab him in the rookie draft if no other suitors. We have pick 2.

This seems like ‘there is nothing happening, so what can we talk about’ media BS. On the 1000:1 chance he went, would want at least a top 10 pick coming back. 3rd in the BnF in a preliminary final year. If Kelly is worth 2, Angus is at least 1 and steak knives