drdrake

So you can abuse your own team, just no one else. Lucky we support Melbourne we don't need to yell at anyone else our side is protecting us from from this by playing so poorly that we only yell at them

Doesn't matter who is at the helm we have a losing culture in our club, I reckon PJ and Roos started to change this, then PJ and Goodwin kept it going but we have certainly gone back to what is easy losing games of Football. That is the problem for our club it is to easy to lose games and as a club have taken the easy path to many times and now it is in the fabric of our club. We just continually get it wrong at the draft table, we draft for now not where the game is heading. Dean Bailey was all about the running athlete type of player and the game turned into a contested structured game, then we went the contested bulls limited skills but great around the contest, we saw 1 year of relative success at the end, then game evolved to uncontested keep the ball off style we just don't have skilful enough players to execute this style. A football oval is massive when you defend teams try to make it small, attack teams try to make it large, the issue we have we make it small on the attack and play into oppositions hands. They know we will turn the ball over in our forward 50m arc and they just get ready to run to expose us. Melksham makes a defender accountable as they know he is dangerous with ball in had, they also know that our other forwards aren't so they can get attack off them and we don't work hard enough back into our forward line to be dangerous.

This is the recruiting, we have recruited for a contested Paul Roos style of game, control the footy at the contest and keep it. The issue is we do get first hands on the footy at the contest but don't have the skills to keep it. The game has also evolved to get the balance between contested and uncontested ball, we don't have the players on our list to compete on the uncontested side. We are a boring side no exciting players with run and dare. The biggest issue we have is keeping the ball inside our forward half, the ball just gets transitioned way to fast from our forward 50m arc to our defensive 50m our back 6 have no chance. Yesterday Hunt and Petracca really get a c- for their games Weiderman a D the other forwards Tmac, Garlett, Spargo, Hannan just offer nothing, Hannan has an excuse the other 3 are just plan woeful. Time to inject more youth Chandler, Lockhart to play small forwards, Pruess deep. Tmac, Spargo and Garlett get back to Casey and earn your way back into the side.

We are absolutely broken, players are done. Lucky we had May Lever and Hore this should be 100 points

Isn't Dingley where Hawthorn are going. The Hawks are based at Arctic Park it hasn't stop them being able to lure players. Agree Casey isn't the answer, shame as Casey Fields has every thing you want with space to expand

Ok on that basis lets move to Casey to keep the admin staff happy, players will crack it but we will have a happy admin team.

Yep guess what, Tullamarine isn't Windy Hill, Where Hawthorn is going isn't Glenferrie, The Glass house isn't Victoria Park, Lathlain isn't Subiaco, Coogee isn't Fremantle, it is a training head office base, we need to move on from the past and find somewhere to build a future

All State and federal governments are concerned about is increasing female participation numbers or look like they are trying to do this. Even the Victory announcement was for their Womens team and academy. We need to expand our club, the facility needs to include Male and female Football, you need to get the Vixens on board and another group, North was the Hub, Pies I think was VIS and the community running/walking hub for the yarra, Richmond has received funds for the Bashar Hawli Academy, Hawthorn is looking at their facility to have high performance Basketball and Netball. It is almost turning the clock back 30 years to the old Sports Club model, we started this with Team Melbourne, great concept just didn't gain any real momentum. Join forces with the Vixens look at the land near the State Netball and Hockey centre, there is already Football Ovals there between the centre and the Childrens Hospital, think outside the box with something that can tie into the Children and Women Hospital maybe a secondary rehab center that caters for out patients. Look at a Ronald Mcdonald house as an extension of the facility. You need something that will not only benefit the MFC but the broader community

And that doesn't include the dropped chest marks with from players on their own deep inside our forward 50m arc. O Mac played like a player resigned to the fact that he is now our 5th tall defender behind May, Lever, Frost, Hore and instead of doing what Frost has done and fight for his spot he has just dropped his bundle. His brother has gone from a bloke that marks everything to a spud.

Watching this Young from vic country would be great off half back

Come on every player we draft is an elite kick with good pace.

Garbage, we have got exactly what we drafted Lewis for maybe 1 year to long. May, wait to 2020 he is one of the best kicking tall defenders in the competition, May, Lever, Hore add in Frost you have the base for a strong back 6, just need mids who can kick and run with forwards that can lead and mark and crumb and we are back.

Agree with Gus but put Petracca up for trade, he is Colin Sylvia mark 2 all the ability in the world but want live up to the hype. Viney, no way up forward is great in close but doesn't have any closing speed to really put any pressure on.

Yep T mac needs to be running that is when he is at his best working up the ground and working hard back to deep forward. Pruess comes in as a deep forward, stand him 25m out Phil Davis will panic manning up on a bloke this size

I reckon more like 1999, of an amazing 1998 making a prelim 1999 we won 6 games, injuries and a changing of the guard with a few old blokes coming to an end. 12 months later we played of in a grand final.

Agree with the handballing in the first half most our goals resulted in a some really good handball chains. Second half we started handballing to stationery targets and panic handballs. Our field kicking was terrible all night

I dont buy into this, best endeavour no question, our basic skills of kicking the entire game and handballing in second half maining was suburban footy standard at best. Our goal and field kicking was terrible, you can try all you want but if you cant hit targets you cant play well

The game was there to win and we choked kicking was at u10 level.

Good luck with that, we had a perfect stadium to train at as well, except 4-5 clubs call it home so does cricket and no side is allowed to train on it. If you get a chance check out West Coast or Fremantle training facilities. Even Essendon, two ovals ample space Hawthorn is building the same. We need to face facts, we will not get what we want to keep up with the competition inner city. I reckon ideal spot close to the City, the ovals along the Monash past Kooyong, starts with the Baseball field, soccer/Athletics, then you have 5 or 6 football ovals along the creek towards Malvern.

Haven't Selwood, Dangerfield and now Ablett all been let off or a reduced sanction at appeal this year

I would be more upset with the coaching staff that made him play on one leg in a preseason game

I watch Perth V East Perth on Anzac day, looked lazy and just wanted to take mark of the year, didn't hunt defensively and we need forwards that will keep the ball inside our forward 50m arc

I think his work rate has been good at AFL level, just was dropping a few marks that he will take as he matures. His buddy up forward is lucky he has a few credits in the bank, if McDonald was is half decent nick it would take pressure of Weiderman. He will be good just needs to start holding his marks

Culture, it was the day the clubs culture started to change from a club that was feared and expected to win each week, to a club that is happy to survive. Winning is hard, losing is easy unfortunately our club taken the easy path for the large part of 50 years. We almost changed this culture in the Northey/Daniher years, but the clubs culture won in the end. It looked like Roos, Jackson and Goodwin starting making in roads to effect change but again looks like we are heading down the familiar path off easy beats.

Yep, I had 2 dees supporters now 2 West Coast Eagles supporters, heading to Geelong on Sunday. Kids have choices these days, the issue we have as parents to try and keep our kids as dees, we have sucked for so long, one good year and we suck again and boy do we absolutely stink at the moment. You can keep kids interested if you have a couple of goods years, we have had 1 good year in 13 years so any kid that is below 15 years old as a Melbourne supporter you have just copped crap onfield and from your mates at School. Last year you could give a bit back, now you will be copping it even harder. Don't blame anyone for jumping off, the club has serious issues and no matter what we do to turn it around we just can't losing and failure is in the culture of the club.