drdrake

Yep, he has a massive upside will come cheap 3rd or 4th round pick. He will be an upgrade on Preuss as he is more a forward that can ruck, rather than a ruckman playing forward

Lifestyle, Geelong target players that want to live down the coast or a bit in land on farms. In an article last week GWS took him to a fancy restaurant, the article said he would rather be on boat fishing. You cant sell against a club that can offer that country/coast lifestyle to players that want it and let's face it after the past 12 months who wouldn't jump at a move to the coast

I think the club banked on Tmac and Weiderman holding down the key forward postions. The club went and strengthened our back line bring in Lever and May, then our front 6 became totally dysfunctional, even in 2019 most games we won the inside 50 count, we had some big numbers going in just is was garbage entries and not forward standing up. I think we need to work out our priorities, Isaac Smith doesn't overly excite me but he will bring a senior mentor into our club that has been in a good system. Give up no picks for him which is a bonus. What concerns me though will our forward 6 with Weiderman and Jackson as the 2 main key targets with Melksham, Pickett, Fritsch and the other forwards be able to kick enough goals. Adding Brown may help this but he is very much a hit up forward not a bash and crash forward.

I think on the back of some half decent performances when he took over in 2019 he thought the list was better. Coming from Sydney where it is all about structure and discipline, i think he may have done a Mark Neeld, put the rules in place and looks to have put a number of senior players off side. Wish him well and he gets back soon

Do you know what the difference between Mitchell and Oliver is, one can kick, one can't. Buddy was an absolute superstar, all im highlighting is you can lose your stars and get over it. Give me Buddy Franklin over any midfielder any day of the week.

I'm not a fan of trading him and I don't think we will, but losing a player isn't life or death of a team. Buddy Franklin is an absolute super star he was at his peak when he left Hawthorn, he is a once in a generation type player not Oliver, Hawthorn got pick 19 ish for him and went on to win a flag with out him. Oliver is a good midfielder, no match winner but can impact games, his biggest issue he just doesn't hurt teams by foot. Doesn't kick goals, doesn't amass a big total of metres gained and I'm sure someone will correct me runs at about 70% handball to kick ratio. He can be replaced like any other player on our list, we don't have any super stars.

Don't care where they come from that is the asking price or no deal. As I said, if there is any truth behind this, which I think there isn't, we would want 2 first round picks and we then have salary cap space to go after Crouch. We get a similar player to Oliver for nothing and add 2 first round picks one this year and a future one.

So he wants to stay in Victoria whilst his partner and I think they have a child move to Qld.

Let's half entertain this trade for a minute, will cost Carlton 2 first round picks and there current pick not a watered down pick later in the first round. Would the MFC then go after Brad Crouch, he will be cheaper now. If we were to lose Oliver(don't think we will), getting Crouch and 2 first round picks would be a pretty good result.

The AFL do need to relocate sides but the concern is players won't stay. Ideally GWS should be in Canberra, Gold Coast should have been in Tassie however Tassie is the fall back for a failing club, the Bulldogs or North should be in Ballarat. The AFL banked on the lifestyle in Sydney and Gold coast to keep players at the club. How long they can keep funding this time will tell. Geelong is a successful club as they have a hole region of supporters and own stadium. They also target kids from the Geelong falcons and go after players that have been recruited to other clubs from their region. Need to replicate this in other large regional areas, Ballarat is ideal 1 hour from Melbourne, existing stadium which can be continued to be developed. You could also make a case for a club to move to the East, Gippsland way giving them Eastern Ranges and Dandenong Stingrays and you build like Geelong. You could have Geelong, Ballarat and Pakenham, basically the 100km rim outside Melbourne.

Poor defenders, you can't touch a forward with out a free kick, now your only friend when you are one out the boundary line may also be taken off you. If you want scoring and a better game, just go back to juniors and what the AFLW play, last touch out of bounds between the arcs, that will stop teams kicking down the line and make them look inwards. The rugby scrums occur in the centre third, take away the long safe kick down the line

Yes, they might get a late 20's or 30's pick for Brown, that might even get pushed into the 40s after all the bidding and free agency. If Brown can get back to his best they are giving away a 60 goal per year forward for a a kid that is rated 35-45th in the draft. I'm all for getting him as he seems to be on sale, but I really wonder why he is on sale, I think he is faulty goods. We have a bit of history picking up players that are a little bit faulty.

doesn't matter where your list is at if you believe Ben Brown could return to his best you keep him, not push him out the door.

You have hit the nail on the head, If they play to their optimum, what happens if their 2020 form is what they bring in 2021. I still think their is something wrong with Brown, North are very keen to move him on, if they thought he could return to his best form they wouldn't be moving him on

Don't know about that, a lot of players are nominating clubs to go to. I'm just wondering if we are trying to off load players for Third and fourth round picks with the hope we can on trade picks to clubs that will need points to cover FS/NGA kids and get more inside the top 30 even look for a first round pick. To me that would be a pretty good strategy, the players we are looking at off loading will be depth players and we may as well be developing the unknown potential of youth rather then keeping these guys on our list.

To be selfish for the club, the trade we would get for Jetta wouldn't make up for his leadership and experience. He would be worth more to the MFC playing 2s and mentoring our young players than what we would get for him. He looked done this year at AFL level, we don't know if he had underlying injury issues. Would keep him, however if he came to the club for a trade you would also respect that as he has been a great club person and you want to do the right thing by him

Basically 3 weeks out from the trade period, we are looking at Out Preuss, Hannan, OMac Almost Out TMac Rumoured out Oliver In No one as yet Almost in Isaac Smith Maybe Interested Ben Brown Not a great deal to be excited about.

Our back 6, we have the players that can push to be the best back defensive out fit in the AFL. May, Lever, Tomlinson, Rivers, Salem, Hibberd and who knows maybe even Smith shows the Supporters why the coaching panel rate him highly, with Lockhart and maybe even Jordon, add in Petty if we isn't required up forward.

Any club will want the MFC to pick up 20-30% of his contract, I can't see that happening MFC paying him 150-200K a year plus getting what would be at best a third round pick for him, unless we really want him out of the club or he really wants to leave, if it is he wants to leave we should be able to say no worries but we need to re-negotiate your contract so we aren't picking up a fair whack if he moves.

And that is why Collingwood is interested, they have an NGA kid that is ranked a mid teen pick, most likely will still get there first round pick and this kid. They just need the points to cover.

You have to know Nasher that this is the only way Tassie is getting a side. You are the fall back state when either North/GWS/Gold Coast are moved there.

You are not resigning in this current climate unless you have a job elsewhere, especially in the Sport as most codes are looking at cost cutting.

Would he make a good Football Manager?

At least Essendon still have a have decent core or players.

Didn't Brown want to stay at North and this is driven by North to off load him. Bloody strange, get ready Tassie the way North is going you could have an AFL team down there very soon. They will be worse that GWS and Gold Coast when they entered the league, at least Essendon will still have a core group to help the young blokes out, North will have no one.