drdrake

Don't care where they come from that is the asking price or no deal. As I said, if there is any truth behind this, which I think there isn't, we would want 2 first round picks and we then have salary cap space to go after Crouch. We get a similar player to Oliver for nothing and add 2 first round picks one this year and a future one.

So he wants to stay in Victoria whilst his partner and I think they have a child move to Qld.

Let's half entertain this trade for a minute, will cost Carlton 2 first round picks and there current pick not a watered down pick later in the first round. Would the MFC then go after Brad Crouch, he will be cheaper now. If we were to lose Oliver(don't think we will), getting Crouch and 2 first round picks would be a pretty good result.

The AFL do need to relocate sides but the concern is players won't stay. Ideally GWS should be in Canberra, Gold Coast should have been in Tassie however Tassie is the fall back for a failing club, the Bulldogs or North should be in Ballarat. The AFL banked on the lifestyle in Sydney and Gold coast to keep players at the club. How long they can keep funding this time will tell. Geelong is a successful club as they have a hole region of supporters and own stadium. They also target kids from the Geelong falcons and go after players that have been recruited to other clubs from their region. Need to replicate this in other large regional areas, Ballarat is ideal 1 hour from Melbourne, existing stadium which can be continued to be developed. You could also make a case for a club to move to the East, Gippsland way giving them Eastern Ranges and Dandenong Stingrays and you build like Geelong. You could have Geelong, Ballarat and Pakenham, basically the 100km rim outside Melbourne.

Poor defenders, you can't touch a forward with out a free kick, now your only friend when you are one out the boundary line may also be taken off you. If you want scoring and a better game, just go back to juniors and what the AFLW play, last touch out of bounds between the arcs, that will stop teams kicking down the line and make them look inwards. The rugby scrums occur in the centre third, take away the long safe kick down the line

Yes, they might get a late 20's or 30's pick for Brown, that might even get pushed into the 40s after all the bidding and free agency. If Brown can get back to his best they are giving away a 60 goal per year forward for a a kid that is rated 35-45th in the draft. I'm all for getting him as he seems to be on sale, but I really wonder why he is on sale, I think he is faulty goods. We have a bit of history picking up players that are a little bit faulty.

doesn't matter where your list is at if you believe Ben Brown could return to his best you keep him, not push him out the door.

You have hit the nail on the head, If they play to their optimum, what happens if their 2020 form is what they bring in 2021. I still think their is something wrong with Brown, North are very keen to move him on, if they thought he could return to his best form they wouldn't be moving him on

Don't know about that, a lot of players are nominating clubs to go to. I'm just wondering if we are trying to off load players for Third and fourth round picks with the hope we can on trade picks to clubs that will need points to cover FS/NGA kids and get more inside the top 30 even look for a first round pick. To me that would be a pretty good strategy, the players we are looking at off loading will be depth players and we may as well be developing the unknown potential of youth rather then keeping these guys on our list.

To be selfish for the club, the trade we would get for Jetta wouldn't make up for his leadership and experience. He would be worth more to the MFC playing 2s and mentoring our young players than what we would get for him. He looked done this year at AFL level, we don't know if he had underlying injury issues. Would keep him, however if he came to the club for a trade you would also respect that as he has been a great club person and you want to do the right thing by him

Basically 3 weeks out from the trade period, we are looking at Out Preuss, Hannan, OMac Almost Out TMac Rumoured out Oliver In No one as yet Almost in Isaac Smith Maybe Interested Ben Brown Not a great deal to be excited about.

Our back 6, we have the players that can push to be the best back defensive out fit in the AFL. May, Lever, Tomlinson, Rivers, Salem, Hibberd and who knows maybe even Smith shows the Supporters why the coaching panel rate him highly, with Lockhart and maybe even Jordon, add in Petty if we isn't required up forward.

Any club will want the MFC to pick up 20-30% of his contract, I can't see that happening MFC paying him 150-200K a year plus getting what would be at best a third round pick for him, unless we really want him out of the club or he really wants to leave, if it is he wants to leave we should be able to say no worries but we need to re-negotiate your contract so we aren't picking up a fair whack if he moves.

And that is why Collingwood is interested, they have an NGA kid that is ranked a mid teen pick, most likely will still get there first round pick and this kid. They just need the points to cover.

You have to know Nasher that this is the only way Tassie is getting a side. You are the fall back state when either North/GWS/Gold Coast are moved there.

You are not resigning in this current climate unless you have a job elsewhere, especially in the Sport as most codes are looking at cost cutting.

Would he make a good Football Manager?

At least Essendon still have a have decent core or players.

Didn't Brown want to stay at North and this is driven by North to off load him. Bloody strange, get ready Tassie the way North is going you could have an AFL team down there very soon. They will be worse that GWS and Gold Coast when they entered the league, at least Essendon will still have a core group to help the young blokes out, North will have no one.

Why would North want to get rid of Brown, what is wrong with him? They aren't going to get a lot for him, early third round pick maybe second, North have Larkin as a young developing tall but not ready to shoulder the load just yet. It doesn't make sense unless there is an underlying issue that North know about.

Earlier in the year after the Suns v Richmond game, Hardwick in his press conference defended his player/team, the comment was along the lines off, the best teams play on the edge and often cross it that is what it takes to be a good side. Was thinking great I have 10 kids in my junior side that follow Richmond and they will go out and belt kids now. The arrogance of Richmond is really getting off the charts. They have every right but being humble in victory earns you a lot of respect. That is what example we want to set.

Don't the players have to take the ownership along with the coaches and club to bring success. I hate seeing statements like"we need success or Oliver will leave" how about Oliver becomes that match winner when it matters like against Fremantle and Sydney. Our good players go missing when it matters, they turn the ball over at critical times of he match and in Oliver's we need to see him play more games like the one I think V North when he was Judd like bursting away from the contest, taking the game on and kicking the football, that is the Oliver we need not the one that get 20 1m flick handballs per game. On trade targets, we need to sound out Geelongs Ratugolea, if we are going to lose Preuss this guy is idea 2nd our 3rd tall Foward/Ruck. He would slot at CHF and work well with Jackson and Weiderman. He would be upset at Geelong and now rumours they are going hard for Cameron just pushes him further down the chain.

I think there is no question that Brayshaw will be on the table if clubs ask about him. Cameron is a good player, I doubt we are in the mix for him but who knows the Giants need to start worrying about losing young players that are early picks due to paying to much to keep players, they might be prepared to lose Cameron and keep 2-3 developing players instead of these kids looking elsewhere.

The bottom line is we have a player that other clubs need and if you are a player you want to be playing at the highest level not playing down at Casey hoping Gawn gets injured. When we traded for Preuss I think the club thought he would play 70% forward and 30% ruck in tandem with Max, it hasn't worked out as Preuss's forward work isn't good enough. He needs to go somewhere as No 1 ruck, hopefully he can get this and we get want we want for the trade

What do we consider a massive win, to me a pick in the late 20s early 30s or getting our first pick into the 8 to 14 range.