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If that's the case then throw in Tapscott.

Thursday 2pm.

I agree with Adzman. He was a very highly rated KPF in that draft along with Watts and the Mitch Brown who went to Geelong. None of them ever settled down and lived up to their hype which suggests that it might not be such a wise thing to go early with key forwards in the draft.

I never really understood Shakespeare but if this joker from mediaeval times has got an answer to Melbourne's problems then I'll be prepared to sit through one of his plays again as long as it's not about witches and fairies.

Fair go there. My uncle's forever grateful to one of them chinese capitalists who bought his house in the 'wood at auction a few weeks ago for waaay over the reserve. Nice.

Too true and what annoys me about Essendon is that it is insisting on better than pick 17 for Ryder. I don't believe he would be worth much more than that at the best of times and certainly not if he has infraction notices hanging over his head.

I don't think we're making a move for Beams. It's Danger or someone else that hasn't figured in discussions as yet. I reckon we won't put all our eggs in one basket and keep one of 2 or 3. That's all I can think of - we need to give a few more away.

It seems to me that the offer of 12 for Trengove and 23 is Richmond's offer but who knows how it might end up. Could be like 12 for Trengove and Strauss or something like that.

That Markov is the guy who holds the world record in the pole vault, yes?

With our history if the Saints take Petracca and we take Brayshaw, then Petracca will end up a star and Brayshaw a dud. If the Saints take anyone else, whoever we take will still be a dud.

It's surprising that many of the names in the best players in the games so far haven't been mentioned in draft discussion. Perhaps there are going to be some surprises on draft day.

Blease used to follow Scully around like a little puppy. I think GWS would be a good destination for him and could resurrect his career.

Please MFC do whatever must be done and let's get this behind us.

How did Port go against us on their home ground this year when we were bereft of forward targets to kick goals? I still reckon we have the potential to improve dramatically with a vastly different forward set up which will allow Roos to change the way our attacking set up operates.

Catching up on the week's reading and found this gem from Patrick Smith who's keeping up the attack on Tird:- Essendon owes Hird zilch but Bomber deserves whole lot better

Just on Parker being picked at 40, he was bottom age in 2009 at Dandenong Stingrays the year when Scully was drafted. Nearly everybody had Scully as the number 1 pick. Parker was taken the following year after 39 names were called out and yet today, who would take Scully ahead of Parker? Which proves that drafting is not an exact science and the people who screech on and on about one selection or another have nothing better to do with their time.

The odds are that if Richmond lose, then both WCE and Adelaide will leapfrog them and they'll finish tenth.

He won't be collecting anything anyway.

I don't see our challenge to win today as being much different to Richmond's against the Swans. The opposition really have nothing to play for. The result won't change where they finish on the ladder. There will be an element of self- preservation involved among some of the players who won't want to get injured and miss finals games . The answer is to hit them hard, tackle them, pressure them and let them know that they're in for a tight physical contest. This might be a departure from the way they've been playing lately but it's the last game of the season and they need to make a statement for their fans and for themselves.

What about WB's outs. They look like they have more of their stars out than we do.

No offence intended Mr. Frank. I was just responding to the fact that you said you were feeling cornered into supporting the players but really didn't want to. When you think of them as being like the East Germans and Chinese many of who were also unwitting subjects of chemical experiments I thought you might not feel so cornered.

How did you feel about the East German athletes when they were burning down the tracks fuelled by their state run chemistry labs or the 15 year old Chinese swimmers and their baritone voices.

My preference is that we wrap him up in mothballs and have him fresh and ready for Round 1, 2015.

Deliberate misinformation, I would suggest. The pro Essendon camp is so determined to knock this on the head without a proper hearing of the facts that they will stoop to just about anything to muddy the waters and deflect from the fact that a massive programme of injecting supposedly unknown substances in the bodies of these players was carried out in 2012. Bring on the hearing I say.

Stadium almost empty at the start of game. Crowd lost.Both teams were awful. That stuff won't endear NZ fans to the game.