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Fremantle made a low ball offer that we cannot accept. But the hypocrisy of the "hardmen" here is gobsmacking. On one hand it's "5 + 6 or tell Freo to get [censored]." "Mahoney needs to man up". We even had one highly respected poster saying the fair price is 5 + 6 + Brayshaw/Cerra. Now Peter Bell comes out with the same logic at the other end of the scale and the outrage is palpable. You hardmen should be appreciating and admiring his work. It's the way to negotiate according to you isn't it? It's just turbulence, Mahoney is smarter than that and we'll get the right deal. Relax.

Sorry it has been a long first half of the trade period

Possibly a red herring. Suggest some stupid idea as a cover. Bring in the ideas you want but reject the stupid idea. What you want is more easily swallowed.

How are they getting 5 while retaining 6, 7 and 10?

They missed out on everybody else.

5 more pages of the same recycled content. Be hard vs be pragmatic, with the occasional "hes a FA next year" fallacy for spice. At least there's been some real actual movement today with Freo's pick trade.

wow nice work by Freo and very helpful to our cause Port still have 6 & 10 which possibly gets them 2 of highly rated SA prospects Lukosius, Rankine, Rozee and Hately. That's win-win trading

Your leased Rolls that only goes sometimes?

Or it's posts like these who expose Cro Magnon supporters who are all club and no brain.

Yeah but you might end up walking home with just the Porsche brochure in hand.

Agree I love trade period.

Yeah look the 4th rounder 62 that we might get back to balance the trade could be useful since we're turning quite a few players over and may still be picking then. But the competition for players is thin at that point in the draft. Don't sweat the small stuff.

Pretzel logic of dinosaurs in Hogan thread.

No shiit post. Those stats are not from last year. Did you miss it when he dominated against us in atrocious conditions at Casey this season in a rare televised match? Have a look at the 2018 stats in the later post by @Sydee. Scroll across to his hitout numbers "reasonable number of hit out" 75, 72, 62, 60, 55, 50. FML I'd like to see good numbers then! Look this trade only makes sense to me if he's back up to Max. He's not really a ruck forward like Vardy, he's a big 1st tap ruckman. Contested mark numbers are reasonably good at 20. We'd have to be consistently playing a more extreme version of the gamestyle with a ruckman behind the play if Max and Preuss both play together.

Like is insufficient. Needs repost for emphasis.

Crows notoriously conservative in trading. It has cost them big time IMO.

There's bound to be a variation in player welfare from club to club. I cite Essendon under James Hird as a recent extreme example. More observant players are likely to be aware of this potential for variation and when their club shows them decent consideration they may feel some sense of reciprocation. It's not that hard to understand - my employer is a commercial entiity who hired me to benefit their commercial ends - but have treated me fairly and well when they didn't have to and I feel alignment to them. Smart practice IMO. This whole idea extends to fairness of dealing in trade period. MFC has established a reputation for this and I think reaps rewards. Players want to play for us.

Opposition players sleep a little more uncomfortably before MFC games.

Gold Coast have List Management Numerologist funded in their soft cap by the AFL.

Groin Guru and Snake Baker?

Yes I don't really have a problem with any of that. I think the non-football states need a leg up with scarce home grown talent and to combat go-home factor which is much worse for them. I think F'S is a great thing and the acquisition system is fair, Far better than the previous 2 iterations: 3rd round Pick directly after nominated draft selection What are you suggesting as an alternative?

Yeah we'll all be counting the great savings, after we finish runner up to WC with Kennedy kicking 4.

Did you prefer the previous system where all F/S went for 3rd rounders, only NSW and Qld teams had Academy players and they went for free?

The AFL receives a lot of criticism but I think the points system and 20% discount for F/S and Academy players is a great outcome.

Some raw meat eaters here destined for disappointment again.